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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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ruggero

HELLO - Anyone out there?????

I just hate to be neglegted in here ... it's not polite...it's like government do, remember ?...

Soooo â€" I'll try to post my suggestion again.

Hopefully someone do something about it. Please answer my call.

Quote from: Cloxxki
A moving lower ramp has been suggested before, to harness CF from the weight at 6:00.
You mean me...?

ruggero

petersone

Hi Ruggcero
I'll talk to you!!
I can't see from pics.what you are doing,but I can't see that the ball is going to be gaining height.
peter

AEVector

Hello,

I created a Working Model simulation of Dusty's version of this gravity wheel (see attached). In the simulation, I added a yellow ball that falls on a platform attached to the circumference of the wheel, making it spin.

This could be helpful for Dusty to try any combination of ramp/track shape to see which works.

To change the shape of the ramps in Working Model 2d, just click on the shape. Then press CTRL-Y. Grab the edge tabs and reshape.

There are two wm2d files. One has the working weights on the wheel. The other doesn't to see the free-wheeling without the weights.

Good luck.

AEVector

ruggero

Quote from: petersone on May 10, 2009, 12:46:59 PM
Hi Ruggcero
I'll talk to you!!
I can't see from pics.what you are doing,but I can't see that the ball is going to be gaining height.
peter

Thank you, Petersone...I was beginning to feel kind of out of space...

You drop a (ball) weight on the 'egg' curve (ramp) and see what happens.
Figure stepping on a RAVE, and it will tip into your face..;)

It's a part of a mechanisme that could sling-shoot the weight (ball) at 11:00 over the top.
To do the experiment one does not need to build a wheel â€" just the 'egg' curve and a (ball) weight.

And perhaps the weight would exit the 'egg' curve right after 06:00 and enter the fixed oval guide.

ruggero 

Omnibus

Quote from: i_ron on May 10, 2009, 11:06:03 AM
Tis only an illusion. Note that unlike this version below, that doesn't work, the patent shows more weights on the left than on the right...

Ron

What i'm saying isn't an illusion but a result of calculated positions of the mass center using wm2d. They are calculated and placed correctly by wm2d unlike other things that program does. As seen, Abeling's wheel, as any such wheel, has the unique property of persistently maintaining the mass center sideways to the right of the axle. This is the right criterion proving it's a perpetuum mobile, not counting the balls on the left and on the right, neither observing the paths they travel. Perpetuum mobile is proven by the analysis applied by @eisenficker2000 but is much more cumbersome in view of lack of suitable software to do the calculations conveniently (as wm2d does regarding the position of center of mass).