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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Quote from: Omnibus on May 10, 2009, 04:22:59 PM
@All,

What needs to be done now is to develop a tool for finding an optimal construction that would maximize the effect.
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Jeeez... What needs to be done now is that you stop your delusional posts avalanche, particularly because it seems that you are The One of a few who don't get it no matter what....

What effect??? What Perpetual motion??? What has been proven "beyond a doubt" (this is one of your eternal claims)...
Yes, I'm now beyond any doubt that you are "very fresh" in the area of "unbalanced wheels"...

Never mind the force parallelograms,.. or static analysis, or dynamics of unbalanced wheels...

Abeling's wheel (as described in his patent) is a NON-WORKING device. As simple as that...
If built, It would stuck soon after being released... Under ideal conditions, it would behave like a pendulum. (I think people were trying to tell you that many times...)

So, where's the usefull work this device can provide?...
Now, will you try to build something, like a proof of a concept (just for yourself)? At least this time? So you could (maybe?) understand at least a bit of what you are preaching here tiresly??
>:(
"Ex nihilo nihil"

Omnibus

@spinner,

You're expressing unsubstantiated opinions ("force parallelograms,.. or static analysis, or dynamics of unbalanced wheels..." is just blabber to sound scientific) while I'm providing rigorous scientific proof. As can be seen, I wasn't initially convinced but lately came to realize the proof is simpler than I realized. This was a process on my side. Abeling's is a working device in principle. How it can be turned into a practically working model still remains to be seen. That's why we need tools to guide us through this and your posting hardly contributes anything towards that goal.

Omnibus

To prove theoretically that this is a perpetuum mobile is much more important that trying to build it. Because most building efforts most certainly will turn out negative which may lead many to conclude it's just not possible which isn't the case.

Omnibus

@All,

Writing your own program is the best way to go in this analysis because in this way you have the control over what's being calculated. We're quite lucky, I should say, because in what needs to be programmed there's no need for numerical solving of differential equations, getting into instabilities and such. What we need is something plain and simple -- determining the lengths of lines and their product, summing up such products and the most involved, finding the tangent to a curve. All this is a trivial matter for someone who's doing programming on a regular basis. I'll do it eventually but it will take me some time to find out the details about script programming in AutoCAD (programming is not what I do), so I thought someone who knows how to do that might wanna jump right in and shorten the process.

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Quote from: Omnibus on May 10, 2009, 05:27:36 PM
@spinner,
You're expressing unsubstantiated opinions ("force parallelograms,.. or static analysis, or dynamics of unbalanced wheels..." is just blabber to sound scientific)...
Yeah, sure. I only dream about me sounding "scientific" (on a forum like this?).... ;D
:-*

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...while I'm providing rigorous scientific proof.
Rigorous scientific proof? Where???

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As can be seen, I wasn't initially convinced but lately came to realize the proof is simpler than I realized. This was a process on my side. Abeling's is a working device in principle.
Abeling's wheel is a working device in principle? Could be, depends what kind of principle do you have in mind.
For me, the theoretical(dreamed) maximum for the SJ's "device" is a "perpetual motion of the third kind" - which I am most certainly not interested in. Hey, you can have it just for yourself!
A single unit will (allegedly) provide power to 17000 homes... Made of glass, of course.

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How it can be turned into a practically working model still remains to be seen. That's why we need tools to guide us through this and your posting hardly contributes anything towards that goal.
Tools are fine. If one knows how to use them. You can, for instance, use (or abuse) your physics simulation programs and methods as much as you wish. Good luck! 


Yes, I know my posts are not very welcomed here, so I am trying to keep them at minimum...
But, from time to time, I just cannot resist... Sorry.

Surely you don't really think that skeptics are the main obstacle towards reaching the "OverUnity"?

Cheers!
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