Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[0c]

FYI:

For any of you who want to help themselves but can't afford sophisticated CAD software, I have discovered that eMachineShop (free software) can export DXF files which work in WM2D.

http://www.emachineshop.com/

Don't have any answers yet. Still working on it.

Have fun!

[rlortie]

I am not following this thread anymore, but the following quote was sent to me by private mail. This I must respond to.

I have put eight (half) weights in my tiny scrappy wheel. I had no time to make another 8.
The tendencies of the wheel are then a bit amazing:It is very eager to go counter clockwise because of the tilted ellipsoid ramp. The moment one weight falls out. The wheel moves itself accelerating counterclockwise till all weights have come in the lower quadrant..the equilibrium state of an overbalanced wheel.

The equilibrium state of a balanced wheel is when all weights are static at it lowest point. A pendulum is said to be balanced when statically hanging at six o'clock, at any other point it is consider OB.  A wheel is no different than a pendulum in this example.

You obviously have learned that Abeling's wheel even when started in an OB status becomes balanced by finding equilibrium. I find nothing amazing about this as it is the normal thing to happen. Also it is not due to the ellipsoid ramp, it is due to the fact that the majority of the mass is located on that side of the wheel.

If you wish for me to acknowledge a response you will have to e-mail me.

Ralph 

[Omnibus]

@mondrasek,

That is exactly what I achieve with my pendulum analogy when I push it to one side with a guide.

You’re using wm2d for this purpose, right? Don’t. The equilibrium you’re seeing is a flaw of the program. Wm2d in our case can only be used to promptly determine the center of mass, nothing else.

If one were to take any system of symmetrically arrayed weights on a wheel, allow them some freedom for displacement (mount them on the ends of springs for example) and then lean it against something on one side so that the balls on that side are pushed towards the axle, you get the same thing.  A wheel with a CoG persistently to one side of the wheel.  At all angles of rotation.  This is not definitive proof that a wheel is a perpetuum mobile.

On the contrary, if the center of mass is persistently sideways to the axle, the system is a perpetuum mobile.  Many such systems can be thought of. You’re pointing to one such system.

[Omnibus]

I am not following this thread anymore, but the following quote was sent to me by private mail. This I must respond to.

The equilibrium state of a balanced wheel is when all weights are static at it lowest point. A pendulum is said to be balanced when statically hanging at six o'clock, at any other point it is consider OB.  A wheel is no different than a pendulum in this example.

You obviously have learned that Abeling's wheel even when started in an OB status becomes balanced by finding equilibrium. I find nothing amazing about this as it is the normal thing to happen. Also it is not due to the ellipsoid ramp, it is due to the fact that the majority of the mass is located on that side of the wheel.

If you wish for me to acknowledge a response you will have to e-mail me.

Ralph

Useless post because it ignores obvious facts.

[mondrasek]

You’re using wm2d for this purpose, right? Don’t. The equilibrium you’re seeing is a flaw of the program. Wm2d in our case can only be used to promptly determine the center of mass, nothing else.

The equilibrium I am seeing in WM2D is what I also confirmed with my vector analysis.  Good old Statics 101.