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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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i_ron

Quote from: LarryC on May 11, 2009, 09:07:11 PM
Ah, this brings up an interesting question for you learned gentlemen.

Taking into account Hans statement and since we all know that ignoring air resistance, an object will increase its velocity by 9.8m for each second of fall. So lets say that a gravity machine has an acceleration of 5 m/s2 on the fall and no loss on the lift. Would not the same velocity increase occur for a working gravity machine for each rotation?

Regards, Larry

Please Larry, you know I don't qualify for that accolade, LOL

But I'll take a stab at it anyway, no, I don't think so... as
Hans says the weight is under too many restritions for this to
occur.

But I missed Han's terminal velocity statement...to elaborate
further... yes, this maybe correct... but, the weight gain is
considerable, which is what is desired.

Ron

rlortie

The consensus on another forum appear to agree that if a full 360 degree cycle is achieved each weight will start with the motion already achieved, gaining acceleration within each weight cycle.
Newtons law of motion regarding collision seems to support this, or at least the way I interpret it.

Maximum rpm is governed by either centrifugal force preventing mechanical transference or the machine fly's apart.

I understand that configuring CF related to given mass, radius  and velocity is something that wm2d can do!

Ralph


Cloxxki

Ron has a valid point which I addressed earlier as well.

2 weight are traveling at different velocities, but arrive at exactly the same time at the bottom of the ramp, aimed at the skies.
Weight A:10m/s
Weight B:20m/s
(G-10m/s2 for ease).
Weight A will make it up 5 metres.
Weight B will make it up 15 metres.
Visualize a simple y=x2 parabole to visualize how nicely this performance ramps up.

A bigger wheel, or faster turning for that matter, will be easier to make to work.

The slots' geometry was mentioned again. Are we not all in agreement that during it's forceful change of direction on the botom ramp, the weight should not be touching the wheel? Slot WILL need to accomodate the weight to bravely leap to a significant advantage. The curved of the slot (long inverted tractor beam) gives it backup from the wheel as the weight gets "tired", and the wheel gives it a boost after the capcitors have been loaded sufficiently. And repeat.
Two ramps and one slot type will need to be very carefully dimensioned to get the maximal, if any, over unity from the wheel. And, if at all possible, we may well need an initial wheel speed to get into over unity.

ruggero

Quote from: hansvonlieven on May 11, 2009, 07:11:32 PM
Bessler's wheel was 12 feet in diameter. That means at 50 RPM it took well over a half a second for the weight to travel the distance. How do you think that compares to a weight dropped 12 feet?

Hans von Lieven

Edit: Acceleration due to gravity is 9.81 m/s2 near the surface of the earth

Why do you repeat my question?

ruggero

ruggero

Quote from: i_ron on May 11, 2009, 07:31:32 PM

a 20 Kg bob swinging 120 degrees will lose say 10 Kg's at its upstroke and gain 10 Kg's (weigh 30Kg's) at the 6:00 down stroke. I don't see this being modeled in the sims...)

Ron

That's exactly what I am trying to point out with my drawings â€" again and again ... but nobody seems to care about doing the calc 'of enlightment'...

ruggero