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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: Cloxxki on May 27, 2009, 04:34:06 AM
You have now each spent ~50 posts quarrelling over calculations. Perhaps you could take it offline, and find a mutually respected scientist to take a stance?
You are both showing symptoms of the somebody-is-wrong-on-the-internet syndrome.

Please divert your excess energy towards creating a PMM. It could have been invented, documented and independently confirmed halfway your quarrel, let alone if you worked together.

Thank you.

I'm not the initiator of this useless exchange.

Cloxxki

Quote from: Omnibus on May 27, 2009, 04:39:18 AM
I'm not the initiator of this useless exchange.
But perhaps a driving force?
Where 2 squarrel, 2 are wrong.

Even if every word you write on the technical side is to conform even to science as it will be known a century from now, your attitude is still not up to your own century's standards. In my humble opinion.

If you're so sure it's a PMM, build it. Sufficient excess torque to overcome friction, I would say.

Omnibus

Quote from: Cloxxki on May 27, 2009, 04:50:35 AM
But perhaps a driving force?
Where 2 squarrel, 2 are wrong.

Even if every word you write on the technical side is to conform even to science as it will be known a century from now, your attitude is still not up to your own century's standards. In my humble opinion.

You should keep you humble opinion to yourself. Any century's standards require rebuttal of nonsense. Truth isn't polite.

QuoteIf you're so sure it's a PMM, build it. Sufficient excess torque to overcome friction, I would say.

There's no such requirement if I'm sure it's a PMM. There are strict scientific criteria to judge for that and whether or not someone can manufacture it isn't one of them.


Omnibus

@Cloxxki,

I also said on several occasions that, now that we know that perpetuum mobile is real, we need to discuss what the systematic analysis should be to assess the friction and ways to get it down below values which overcome the perpetuum mobile effect. That's a technical question but that doesn't mean it's non-trivial. It is as non-trivial as for manufacturing of any fine mechanical device.

Cloxxki

I bet if Da Vinci had stubled on a PMM design, he'd just sculpt one out of rock, and it would work.
If PMM requires high-tech low-friction solutions, little free energy can come from it. Maybe that's the stage where Abeling is now himself, getting friction down that last 0.5% to get the wheel to keep turning....
If we can improve on the shape of a wheel, and the interactions with the weights, would the potential gain not be quite substantial? Indeed we need to find the optimal setup, but for some time I see no-one making good suggestions.