Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[hansvonlieven]

Henkel is a German company primarily a manufacturer of washing powder (Persil) and detergents with glue and fibreglass manufacturing companies bought in over the years. Sales â,¬13.07 billion (2007)

I seriously doubt their involvement with a backyard enterprise of this sort and the ramshackle prototypes shown in the video.

The guy's approach is clearly visible, it is an old approach towards a Bessler wheel that has never worked.

Just another scam I'm afraid, I will be most surprised if it is more than that.

Hans von Lieven

This is what I said some 175 pages ago. I am still sticking with it.

Hans von Lieven

[Omnibus]

Hans,

it is an old approach towards a Bessler wheel that has never worked.

What makes you so sure it has never worked? Propaganda says so, but that's just propaganda. 

[Omnibus]

I do hope they fix the PM capabilities of this forum soon.

Very interesting ideas, Dar.  I look forward to seeing how they play out.

M.

Sounds to me more like call for friendship than something of real use for the advancement of the problem at hand.

[Cloxxki]

It's only tricky if you intend to oppose gravity. You can offset the center of mass directly below the center of rotation without much difficulty at all. Problem is, it's hard to get gravity to do any work in that position.

You correctly amend to my statement, thank you. I should have specified consistent (at least on average) lateral offset, if not level with, then preferably above centre.

[beastmastre]

I do hope they fix the PM capabilities of this forum soon.

Very interesting ideas, Dar.  I look forward to seeing how they play out.

M.

Thank you, M. PM is working, btw. @Dusty and I have exchanged messages.

@Cloxxki, I hadn't thought of it yet but you're right. It is a lot like a trebuchet. In my ideas, that upper left area where the weight flips from down to up will be where, unfortunately,  a lot of torque is drained from the system but it is also where the weight's acceleration is achieved. Fortunately though, the weights near the axle are still applying CW torque until their rollers slot turns parallel to the ground and also the weights being lifted at the bottom help the flipping weight because of the connecting rods.

@Cloxxki is also right about Teflon. Teflon is great in thin coatings, like on frying pans or bullets (hehe). But in bulk form, it's actually a lot like Nylon. It's flexible and compressible, and would probably be a drag on the system. I can't imagine why, or where in the system, Abeling would want to use glass. I think he's going for some kind of laminated glass, since Henkel is providing the glue. Glass can be made with a grain and a high tensile strength in one direction and then laminated in opposing directions, like plywood, for a really strong product. But I still think the stresses in a system like this are too much for glass in the long term. Maybe he wants visibility somewhere. (Use Transparent Aluminum!! ahem Sorry, the Trekkie in me had to say it.)

I think polished steel is fine for the rails and rollers, along with my modified train wheel idea (or something better) AND some really good lubricant. I've already mentioned this to @Dusty in a PM, but a train can't accelerate or brake on a greased track. Even wet leaves on a train track are bad. It's a nightmare for them, but great for us. We want it to slide. We don't have to invent new friction reducing technologies here, although that would be great as well. (And, steel parts can be chrome plated to build them back up after they've worn down. My mother used to do this in a factory we worked in.)

Note: @All, I decided before I started posting that I am not going to get into time wasting arguments here. If someone gives useful ideas (and everyone does) or clear answers as to why something won't work, that's great. Other than that, I'm just going to let useless remarks be and keep moving forward.

Thanks,
Dar