Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Cloxxki]

Cloxxi,

How about joining bars which end in springs to accomodate the difference in relative distances to each pair if dumbbells?

My thinking is that the "shot put" action cannot be from friction alone where the path is "compressed" at 7-11 o clock. I keep wondering what he means with "energy being accumulated in the lower left of the setup" and the release at the top.

Accumulation reads "spring" in my mind. Also do not forget the magical "D".

AZ

It could be several things.
- If the ramps on the lower left really disengaged the weight from teh wheel, energy is freed to the wheel otherwise used to bring up said weight. The weight, depending on rim speed upon release, will make it some way or all the way up just by converting horizontal movement into vertical. High rim speeds get the weight all the way to 12:00 on a ramp, but obviously then it needs to be somehow be sped up to rim speed again. Unless...rim speed is quite how at the very moment it re-joins, by design... Back to my idea of faster-slower speed through a wheel turn for that. fast out at bottom, slow back in on top. Weights can then also be in sync with the wheel at 6:00 and 12:00. What happens in between is the real challenge to figure out.
- Sure, if the oval trajectory is shaped such that the rod's length is compressed after the lower passes 6:00, and the weights are well out of balance for that phase for the other weight (stuck to the wheel, let's not forget, so the wheel could offer the input at the cost of speed) to continue rotation, past the point of "shortest rod length", it will automatically (or machanically delayed) boost one or both weights to accelerate. One or both, that part is bothering me now. Should the shot put be at the cost of the lower weight and/or wheel's weight, or will the spring release onto 2 or even 3 bodies all at the same time? The wheel will get the slam from the weight to the rim per Abeling's claim, so perhaps just boosting one or two weight might suffice.

[AquariuZ]

I understand what Sjack is saying, but I fail to see how he can overcome the killing force which is ofcourse friction... No matter how well you shape the ramps, friction is going to kill momentum eventually.

Remember he has a part on his site omitted:

"The weight of the bodies together with ... (intentionally omitted) and the rotational velocity determine the amount of energy that can be generated."

This puzzle would drive me crazy if I weren't already...

[Cloxxki]

I understand what Sjack is saying, but I fail to see how he can overcome the killing force which is ofcourse friction... No matter how well you shape the ramps, friction is going to kill momentum eventually.

Remember he has a part on his site omitted:

"The weight of the bodies together with ... (intentionally omitted) and the rotational velocity determine the amount of energy that can be generated."

This puzzle would drive me crazy if I weren't already...

Springs do seem logical there.

In the quoted sentence he seems to in abstract language be giving the formula for maximum power output per rotation. Seems he's referring to another variable in the design, apart from the weight of the bodies. Could it be spin?

Motocross riders can use the wheels as gyros to ensure a convenient landing angle. Brakes, front and rear, and by throtling (rear, they can tilt the bike, at the cost of a bit of wheel spin.
Perhaps the weights are flywheels, able to give an extra push when needed.

Also, he could be referring to a quantifyable shape difference from the circular wheel. The tightness of the ramps, the curve on the slots. Or, in popular thinking, the strength of magnets which were totally totally omitted.

I don't see friction as an obstacle if the mechanical design offers as little as a single digit percentage of OU. Give me a proven concept with 2% OU, I'll give you the design to make it run with OU to spare.

[AquariuZ]

Yes, spin could b, I mentioned I though I found something with regards to spinning bodies and gravity earlier but it turned out to be just a gyroscopical effect caused by inertia.

Unless the weights themselves are gyroscopes that is.

[Cloxxki]

Yes, spin could b, I mentioned I though I found something with regards to spinning bodies and gravity earlier but it turned out to be just a gyroscopical effect caused by inertia.

Unless the weights themselves are gyroscopes that is.

Oh wow, flywheels on another axis, wobbling...