Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Omnibus · December 27, 2009, 06:46:22 AM

No, like I said, totality of all balls (@X00013 don't chuckle. that's serious) has to be observed. That video is no proof for anything. Besides, aside from the strict calculations proving CCW rotation I have my own build with 7 balls showing CCW tendency. Needs more work to be shown here.

Cloxxki · December 27, 2009, 08:27:46 AM

Quote from: Omnibus on December 27, 2009, 06:46:22 AM
No, like I said, totality of all balls (@X00013 don't chuckle. that's serious) has to be observed. That video is no proof for anything. Besides, aside from the strict calculations proving CCW rotation I have my own build with 7 balls showing CCW tendency. Needs more work to be shown here.

It probably needs a LOT of work to show CW rotation from standstill, from every starting position. Even 3:2 bias one direction would be awesome, tight now we're at 1.00000:1.00000 as far as I can tell. SHow me a design that is different, and I'll help with all my might and resources to reduce friction to below OU effect.
That's the problem with full rotation. You get back where you started, most of the times. COE is a hard one to trick.

I will repeat until someone explains me why it won't work : if we get the weight back to 12 quicker than it takes for it to reach 6 via typical rotation, we'd have a seriously overbalanced wheel, right?
We can't lift an equal weight higher up, or with less energy that it requires, but we might be able to do it quicker than g seems to dictate. Excess used is nicely fed by via decelleration.

ramset · December 27, 2009, 09:06:24 AM

Cloxxi
XOOO13 simulated this every way imaginable??
He could explain it quite well I'm sure.
Chet

Cloxxki · December 27, 2009, 09:40:41 AM

Quote from: ramset on December 27, 2009, 09:06:24 AM
Cloxxi
XOOO13 simulated this every way imaginable??
He could explain it quite well I'm sure.
Chet

I saw same simulations with the oddest responses to sliding weights on pivoting rods also. Shooting higher than it started.
Information is being diffused from the gazillions of posts, including mine. Hard to pick out the good stuff.

Omnibus · December 27, 2009, 11:45:57 AM

@Cloxxki,

Rate of rise doesn't make one bit of a difference. What matters is the persistent discrepancy between the center of mass and the axis of rotation -- center of mass is always to the right of the axle at all the angles of rotation of the wheel. That's a gicen (called here OU property). The problem is to decrease friction below a level where this fixed OU property can show itself.