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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Omnibus

@fletcher,

Exploring the observed kinetic energy is beside the point. First, you have to acknowledge that the same potential energy gives rise to two different kinetic energies, depending on the construction of the device.

Omnibus

Also, it is misleading to keep posting that figure because it is obvious from the experiment that the velocities of the two balls differ, unlike what you're trying to foist on the reader.

fletcher

One of us needs to do some research omnibus - hmmm, you just came across this recently didn't you !

Some of us did this experiment at school but perhaps didn't realise the full implications way back then, then again maybe they did - what I did know was that I could use the same ball mass on different tracks & measure their impacts against a spring etc - that was the days before video camera's were commonplace - hmmm, perhaps you could try it & report back ?!


Quote from: omnibusAlso, it is misleading to keep posting that figure because it is obvious from the experiment that the velocities of the two balls differ, unlike what you're trying to foist on the reader.

Omnibus

Quote from: fletcher on March 02, 2010, 06:17:21 PM
One of us needs to do some research omnibus - hmmm, you just came across this recently didn't you !

How about you? You can't understand to this moment that the velocities of the two balls differ despite the fact that the videos (the research) clearly demonstrate that fact. Amazing isn't it?

Think physics. Never mind variational calculus and never mind how recent that new fact is for you.

Omnibus

QuoteSome of us did this experiment at school but perhaps didn't realise the full implications way back then, then again maybe they did - what I did know was that I could use the same ball mass on different tracks & measure their impacts against a spring etc - that was the days before video camera's were commonplace - hmmm, perhaps you could try it & report back ?!

You did that experiment at school and you thought you realized its full implication way back then but, as seen, you were wrong. That isn't just a variational problem, as you were made to believe. There are physical implications to this experiment which you obviously missed and now are unwilling to accept.

And, again, impact has no place in this discussion. Kinetic energy is only a function of m and v and impact, practicality, transfer and what not don't pertain to it. That may be news to you but that's how physics correctly treats kinetic energy.