Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Omnibus]

Nope.  I proved that a given PE results in the same KE, regardless of the path taken.  This CONFIRMS CoE.

It also shows that a given PE can result in different AVERAGE KE, which proves absolutely nothing about CoE.  You claim that it is a violation of CoE.  Clearly you are wrong.  And no finagling or wiggling can escape this fact.

You don't understand that nothing you can present as proof (and you actually have presented nothing of substance) can invalidate the conclusion from the discussed experiment. Yours are futile efforts to save face and that's just a waste of time.

[Omnibus]

It also shows that a given PE can result in different AVERAGE KE

That's funny. You're presenting something that we already know, as if that's your own finding. Not to say, you find it's a common fact that a given PE can result in different average KE. I got news for you. It's an uncommon fact. It proves violation of CoE. Start living with this fact being what it really is--uncommon.

[mondrasek]

That's funny. You're presenting something that we already know, as if that's your own finding. Not to say, you find it's a common fact that a given PE can result in different average KE. I got news for you. It's an uncommon fact. It proves violation of CoE. Start living with this fact being what it really is--uncommon.

Only thing uncommon is that someone would believe that since a given PE can result in different average KE that CoE is violated.  Also a bit sad.  But please go on stating that I am saving face, finagling, afraid of the truth, unwilling to live with facts, or whatever other nonsense you feel somehow discredits me and everyone else who proves you wrong.  I'll gladly give you the last word, if that is what you want.  It will probably be another fallacy, but I think we all expect that of you now.

[matrixman]

I can't believe somone is as stupid as you are, but maybe that's the whole point eh omni=idiot?, wink wink, nudge nudge.


In the off chance you are being sincere, or for anyone you've managed to hoodwink, give some yes and no answers for the following.

1. If a ball is the one following the curve and b ball is the one following the straight but decline track, since a ball finishes first it has greater energy at the end than b ball does. Yes or no?

2. The overall potentials from start to finish are the same since both balls have traveled the same vertical distance. Yes or no?

3. If the total horizontal length was 20 inches for both tracks, you agree that the potential A ball undergoes is greater at 10 inches of horizontal travel than it is for B ball at ten inches of horizontal travel. Yes or no?

Let me bring you to the back of the book for the answers ( though I'd still like to hear what your answers are ).
1. is no, 2. is yes, and 3. is yes.

Let me give you a similar example posed with a question. You have two decline tracks, both exactly the same, both like the track for B ball in the previous example. You let the A ball go first, and when it's reached the first ten inches of horizontal travel you let B ball go. Both tracks are the same but A ball has reached its end point first. After both balls have reached the end can it be said that a ball has more energy, yes or no?

You seem to be confused at what is going on. Let's go back to the first example. We release both balls at the 

[Omnibus]

Only thing uncommon is that someone would believe that since a given PE can result in different average KE that CoE is violated.  Also a bit sad.  But please go on stating that I am saving face, finagling, afraid of the truth, unwilling to live with facts, or whatever other nonsense you feel somehow discredits me and everyone else who proves you wrong.  I'll gladly give you the last word, if that is what you want.  It will probably be another fallacy, but I think we all expect that of you now.

That only thing uncommon is a dramatic uncommon. CoE mandates that a given amount of energy is only transformed equivalently into other forms of energy. Not so in this case. That's a violation of CoE and anybody denying it is "finagling, afraid of the truth, unwilling to live with facts" etc., etc. Choose the infamous qualification you may find suitable for such behavior.