Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Omnibus]

@P-Motion,

If you know CATIA please draw an exact dxf of your device so that we can import it in WM2D. Not all dxf files work with WM2D, though, but it's worth trying. This will save you efforts in building unnecessary variants.

[AB Hammer]

The alleged invention of the "fall and Lift control system" was done towards the end of 2006

In November of 2007, an unknown Dutch inventor Sjack Abeling made the rather outlandish claim he had found a way to rotate and accelerate a large wheel by using twin weights and earths gravity as only propulsion. At the time this was merely ruled a hoax. We have heard nothing from the inventor or his machine since that I am aware of.

The first Weight Power Plant was expected to go online in May 2009. The location for the construction of the first Weight Power Plant was going to be the province of Groningen, the Netherlands." There has been no news of any such construction or new online power plants taking place in Groningen.

Don't you think 4 years is long enough to to see that this is a non-runner if not an outright scam. Consider the amount of advertising O-U achieved during the run of this topic.

I have said it before and I will say it again; members of this forum are wasting their time as well as mine as a subscriber. This machine will never work no matter how hard you try; it is and always will be a typical changing height for width scenario which Bessler himself stated will never work.

Ralph

Maybe it is time to talk about how and why it don't work.

Alan

[Omnibus]

@ABHammer,

I've given ample arguments as to why this machine should work. The problem is that to make it properly it requires special watchmaking skills. Like I've said before, not even just any watchmaker can manufacture a Patek Philippe or a Vaucheron Constantin let alone a device so temperamental as a working gravity wheel. Thus, the problem is purely engineering and manufacturing one.

[AB Hammer]

@ABHammer,

I've given ample arguments as to why this machine should work. The problem is that to make it properly it requires special watchmaking skills. Like I've said before, not even just any watchmaker can manufacture a Patek Philippe or a Vaucheron Constantin let alone a device so temperamental as a working gravity wheel. Thus, the problem is purely engineering and manufacturing one.

Omnibus

I have looked very carefully at the wheel design and a watchmaker skill is not needed but precise tracks would be needed to reduce as much friction at possible. But the problem is it's just not enough lift. I know how it is suppose to work, and I would call it flawed. That would be the reason we haven't heard anything else. My opinion is, it was posted in hopes of somebody would be able to correct the flaws in the design.
To push strait up an up track is allot tougher than going up an gradual incline. The attempts to replicate the wheel tell this as well.
So unless proved otherwise I will have to stand with Ralph on this one.

Alan

PS
Jim this is not your string and I was not talking to you. I was talking to Omnibus. So it is best not to talk to me either.

[Omnibus]

@ABHammer,

Like I said, it has been proved otherwise. I'm not concerned whether or not someone like Abeling or anybody else has made it. Variants of this design are known for centuries and I have shown that only those designs work which maintain persistent violation of the lever rule, that is, center of mass is persistently sideways on one side of the axle for any position of the wheel. That's a systematical, irrefutable approach to the question and we now have it solved. It's a different story whether or not someone recently has been able to make a working rig (I don't know historically).

Your concern about the ramp being too steep is legitimate but that would be an issue only when we see everything else made with a watchmaking precision. With all due respect, all we see so far, including the alleged Abeling's wheel, is too crude to only consider the ramp to be the culprit. I guess, we need someone like that guy, if you remember, showing a mechanism ostensibly demonstrating Steorn's Orbo (not the eOrbo) effect to get interested in this project. Wonder what happened with him.