MylowHJ Replication - Discussion

[wattsup]

@all

Everything that Mylow just disclosed about magnet placement is pivotal and we have seen it before. I have seen it with my simple Pizza Wheel. lol

When Mylow states that when you get to a certain number of magnets there will be a change in the field. I coined this as crowning. He says at a certain point the field will split in the middle. I have seen this and have described it.

I had also put up a step by step method of populating the wheel with the magnets, but Mylow has giving the actual method to start putting on magnets 1 by 1. WHICH IS GREAT.

At this level of care to the actual magnetic field involved, this is no longer a simple exercise in building a static device with pre made parts. This is actually an art form. Like playing music, you have to feel the rhythm of the magnets and the changes that are made when added one by one. Each added magnet makes a new frequency. You then have the crowning, you have the field split.

The actual motor in this build is the dual stator. That is the real motor that is running on a magnetic track of rotors. The dual stators are positioned at a certain distance to an initial mutual repulsion of the north/north and south/south fields. So the stator repulsion is pushed downwards while rotor repulsion is pushed upwards. These two repulsions meet and are making the wheel turn in one direction. Turn the stators the other way and it will turn in the other direction. This means the rotors that are not turned simply provide a universal platform or flux density and the stator walks (or runs) over them.

If you hold the stators in your hands as they are supposed to be positioned you will be able to notice that by placing it over a rotor segment and changing the gap, the stator will change its reaction off the rotors. Since the rotors are fixed, they only other variable is the stator positioning. If it is wrong, no rotor correction will compensate. Both have to be perfect.

Geez, hurry up with my wheel already. I will have a 1/4" and a 1/2" inch disk to play with.

Does any one have some spare HS90's. Allmagnetics is out of stock till June. Or can I get them somewhere else?

[BEP]

Maybe I am missing something. But has anyone succeeded in duplicating mylow's device?
Please don't get me wrong for in 1974 I had a magnet wheel that ran for 1 1/2 days as a kid for a science project. But back in the 70 it seemed that other people had magnet wheels as well. So I believe it to be possible from experience. And I would love for mylow's wheel to be true, but I don't like being duked as well. Another friend of mine is going to try the mylow wheel, I myself will stick with gravity for good reason. We still don't have an absolute on mylow so we have to explore all possibilities. This is the reason I posted  Jerry/smotgroup information. It was just another item to check out, not for any other purpose.

Must have been a lot of local magnetic vortexes back then and a few since.

Just admitting that you have an experience with such a device will cause the flies to leave that pile and head for you.

The only thing such an experience would do is open your mind to possibilities others are too inexperienced to imagine.

I'm not a fly looking for another place to raise 'children'.

I believe you had such a motor experience so if you ever recall enough info and wish to post I'll listen (without instantly calling you a fraud).

Until then, good luck with your project!

[wattsup]

@AB Hammer

I second BEPs post.

Also, I think the guy saying this is a homopolar motor is totally wrong. Grease no grease, the drive is the magnets. I do not believe or can even comprehend how grease in a bearing will cause a rotational motion on the wheel. Actually, if Mylow has grease in his bearing, this will hinder rotation due to the friction at such low torque values. I just had that experience. lol

[AB Hammer]

Must have been a lot of local magnetic vortexes back then and a few since.

Just admitting that you have an experience with such a device will cause the flies to leave that pile and head for you.

The only thing such an experience would do is open your mind to possibilities others are too inexperienced to imagine.

I'm not a fly looking for another place to raise 'children'.

I believe you had such a motor experience so if you ever recall enough info and wish to post I'll listen (without instantly calling you a fraud).

Until then, good luck with your project!

Fair enough BEP

This is all I can remember about it. The inner was an odd number and the outer was an even number of old style iron magnets. They where arranged in a way that you had 2 pushing for each sticky spot. The wheel did not move smoothly but is was a jerking action that tore out the center of the inner disk (cardboard). My Father convinced me I was wasting my time. So I took off the magnets and put them back on the refrigerator and they would not hold up as well as they did before. I got back into it, but with gravity wheels only a couple of years ago. I have ways to lift 6 lbs with 1, as well as ways to make weights lift their selves (you would have to see it to believe it), and several other things that I call breakthroughs that tell me that I am close to breaking this nut wide open. I have fooled myself in the past but I will own up to my screw-ups as well. But you have to be a little over optimistic to play this game to even have a chance.

I hope this clears up your question about my views

[AB Hammer]

@AB Hammer

I second BEPs post.

Also, I think the guy saying this is a homopolar motor is totally wrong. Grease no grease, the drive is the magnets. I do not believe or can even comprehend how grease in a bearing will cause a rotational motion on the wheel. Actually, if Mylow has grease in his bearing, this will hinder rotation due to the friction at such low torque values. I just had that experience. lol

wattsup

You very well could be correct, but in this game all avenues should be checked.
For a smoother bearing. Take the grease out and use a light oil. Only if you had a fast running wheel the grease would heat up and become soft. But for a slow running wheel the bearings will not heat up that much. Or just use ceramic bearings that you don't have to grease.