Gravity Wheel Power Cycle - A working Wheel Is Possible?

[Grimer]

@ mondrasek

"Also, in the case of the Carnot cycle the energy transfer is dependant on phase change, from liquid to gas and back again. "

Not so. You are getting confused with steam engines.

[mondrasek]

You are getting confused with steam engines.

Hardly!  Now I might be too familiar with the modern AC refrigeration cycle... 

But I agree, the Carnot cycle does not need to include the phase change of the gas.  That is only used in modern AC refrigeration cycle as that unique phenomenon allows for rapid expansion and therefore rapid heat absorption of a greater amount of heat.  We do not need phase change to be part of a successful Carnot cycle.

Thanks,

M.

[Grimer]

Hardly!  Now I might be too familiar with the modern AC refrigeration cycle... 

But I agree, the Carnot cycle does not need to include the phase change of the gas.  That is only used in modern AC refrigeration cycle as that unique phenomenon allows for rapid expansion and therefore rapid heat absorption of a greater amount of heat.  We do not need phase change to be part of a successful Carnot cycle.

Thanks,

M.

Sorry. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. 

Here is my idea of how the iso-gravitic (for want of a better name) and the adiabatic (much better because that is not specific to thermal changes) two legs rotate to give us four. Think a two stroke engine replacing a four stroke engine to give a mental crutch.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/frank260332/rotation.jpg

I've also realised it makes more sense to see the abscissa as the reciprocal of t which is a period. It is easier to see that as a length and thereby a strain. The beauty of log scales is one only has to worry about ratios.

Something else to get the mental juices flowing. Think of gravity as a rather weak and washy thing. After all it only causes an acceleration. It's a physicist type of thing whereas, Jerk, rate of change of acceleration, d²x/dt² is much tougher, an engineer type of thing, When the massy woman sees Jerk she looses all interest in Fizz and is happy to be dragged by the hair to Jerk's cave.

Now on the other thread they are talking about a final hockey stick section which could well be d⁴x/dt⁴and which would enlarge the energy area even more. I seem to remember that Jones C Beene on the Vortex forum christened rate of change of Jerk, Jounce.

You can see I am thinking aloud but this is always the way one gets to formulate new views. Turn a picture upside down and one sees thing one hadn't seen before. Shake concepts around like dice and they will form a new pattern.

[mondrasek]

Sorry. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic.

Well I *was* trying to be facetious!  Humor might draw more minds into the discussion. 

Again, most of what you are discussing is beyond me at this point.  But I will endeavor to remember and learn anew what I must to pursue understanding of your analysis.

Is there anyone who you could invite who would be able to add to this discussion?

M.

[Grimer]

Well I *was* trying to be facetious!  Humor might draw more minds into the discussion. 

Again, most of what you are discussing is beyond me at this point.  But I will endeavor to remember and learn anew what I must to pursue understanding of your analysis.

Is there anyone who you could invite who would be able to add to this discussion?

M.

I wish,