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Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?

Started by powercat, April 13, 2009, 06:40:33 PM

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hartiberlin

His latest video at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzS7MN_u-54

shows exactly that this system with the small motors are NOT overunity.

Otherwise you would have at the motor side
always a higher current at the same 12.5 Volts supply and output Voltages.
But it is not.

Or you would have a higher Voltage at the same amperage. But you also don´t have that.

So it is clear now, that this system at least with these small motors is unfortunately not overunity.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

peper10

Quote from: hartiberlin on April 28, 2009, 07:27:23 AM
Groundloop,

Tommey really needs to do current measurements on a shunt
or via lowpassfilter at the battery source, otherwise his meters
will not really show what is going on.

Regards, Stefan.

@all,Something gone bad when you talk about mesurements!!!!
I go back and look at the mesurements that Mr.Peter Lindemen did on his rotary attraction motor and for me,it seams that Tommey
take his mesurements the same way...
Even if it`s chopped ,the AMPS will remain good with a good amp meter.
The more you chopped the amps,the lower gonna be the reading right?????
If a guy like Peter Lindemen take his reading like this it must be ok..

chrisC

Quote from: powercat on April 28, 2009, 08:01:28 AM
@all
communication with Tommey

1 he only answer some questions on YouTube
2 he has stated that he is not interested in joining this  Forum
3 did anyone try ringing him on the number posted on YouTube and here ?

We can only hope that he has come up with a new way of feeding back to source,
as this problem has been highlighted here and in the past many times

cat

Hi Cat:

Tommey and I had telephone conversations the past day. He is indeed one of a kind. Not schooled the usual college way but surely a rare gem in his ability to comprehend, invent and deliver solutions. He has worked on many different projects, some of them way over my head!

He's not really interested in OU forum because it takes too much time and too many people don't know what they are talking about. He also indicated he does not want people to 'visit' him because he's got much to do and of course, he doesn't know the people who wants to 'check' him out.

I'm trying to convince him to 'close' the loop and he is considering doing that. he also has other mind blowing projects he wants to show at some stage but I am not at liberty to talk about it. Other than that he truly is a very sociable, unassuming nice guy and very bright too!

cheers
chrisC


chrisC

Quote from: hartiberlin on April 28, 2009, 11:25:55 AM
His latest video at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzS7MN_u-54

shows exactly that this system with the small motors are NOT overunity.

Otherwise you would have at the motor side
always a higher current at the same 12.5 Volts supply and output Voltages.
But it is not.

Or you would have a higher Voltage at the same amperage. But you also don´t have that.

So it is clear now, that this system at least with these small motors is unfortunately not overunity.

Regards, Stefan.

Hi Stefan:

Not sure if you're interpreting the video correctly? Or maybe I did not quite understand. In the previous video before this one that you've referenced, my previous post is as follows:

The battery & PWM draws 116ma and I assume a duty cycle of 50% at 12V. This is an average power of 0.116x12x0.5=0.7W.
The unloaded capacitor voltage spiked at 115V but settled at 24V useful voltage and runs the motor at 68ma (assuming it's all DC) giving a power at 1.63W . That's proof of O.U!

Now, this is at 50% duty cycle, at 30%, the results are even better! The average current measured at the battery & PWM side is quite accurately measured. The load side is stabilized by large capacitor(s) and delivers what that motor needed at 12.5V. Even if the real current measured is off by 20%, it still delivers much more power?

cheers
chrisC

powercat

Hi chrisC
Great news, well done and thanks forr sharing
letts hope Tommey and others can close the loop

cat
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