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What does a "kick" look like on an oscilloscope?

Started by Grumpy, April 29, 2009, 09:51:01 AM

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Grumpy

April 29, 2009, 09:51:01 AM
What does a "kick" look like on an oscilloscope?

Does it look like the attached image?
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Grumpy

#1
April 30, 2009, 11:29:26 AM
I'll take the "silence" as a "yes".

Thanks Much
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#2
April 30, 2009, 05:21:26 PM
hey

i see HERE RESONANCE   
THE KICK MAST BE WHITOUT RESONANCE 
CLEAN  :)


Grumpy

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April 30, 2009, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: MACEDONIA  CD on April 30, 2009, 05:21:26 PM
hey

i see HERE RESONANCE   
THE KICK MAST BE WHITOUT RESONANCE 
CLEAN  :)

The appearance depends on what you are doing and how you are looking.  The image here is of a burst of oscillations - not resonance.

On an oscilloscope, that is several kicks.  The "kick" is an oscillation on an oscilloscope and an anomolous signal that may spread across a range of freqencies when viewed on a spectrum analyzer.

I have been seeing this for a long time, without knowing what it is.  The "kick" is right in front of me the whole time.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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pauldude000

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May 02, 2009, 02:21:30 AM
@Grumpy

First of all, I want you to know that I am not trying to start one of our (in)famous arguments.  ;D

A simple problem exists, and that is one of definition. Without a definition of exactly what a "kick" is, any spike or oscillation could be claimed as one on a scope shot.

At this point, we could truthfully have ten thousand claims about what a "kick" is, with its associated screen shot demonstration, and it means nothing unless it is the effect SM was describing as a "kick". If SM referred to older usages of the word, then a kick has to do with current.

If he was using a home-brew, self imposed definition for the word, then we might as well drop the concept of proving the "kick" until further information becomes available, as we will never truly know for certain.

Similar to Mace, I see simple oscillations which may or may not be aberrant, and may have a multitude of explanation.

Notice that I am NOT stating your observance of irregular oscillation is irrelevant. What I am saying is that there is no way to prove whether they are in fact SM's kicks.

They probably do contain great significance.

SM was none too clear, as he directly referred to a document which described the kick as an inrush current, then spoke of the kicks as if they were a voltage based phenomena and not a current based phenomena.

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