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What does a "kick" look like on an oscilloscope?

Started by Grumpy, April 29, 2009, 09:51:01 AM

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poynt99

Quote from: Grumpy on June 21, 2009, 05:50:50 PM
Is everyone sure that is a kick and not just a compressed pulse or measuring anomaly?

Attached is a compressed pulse - for example.

Credit goes to BEP for the "soliton" insight.

All efforts are being made to determine that this "pulse" is not some measurement artifact, and so far all indicators are that it is real and that it is a Soliton Pulse. Whether this pulse is ou or abnormal in any way is still to be determined.

I would assume that the late-comers are also making these efforts, and not jumping to unfounded conclusions.

.99
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compfield

Quote from: Peterae on June 21, 2009, 04:12:56 PM
Nice 1 Compfield Love the name LOL

I notice your timing is slightly out hence your little second pulse after it.I guess your controller adjustments are quiet coarse. i have the ability for 250pS adjustments.

;)

Peter


nice observations peter

you are correct about the timing issue,
coarse indeed (1-5 ns stepping),
needed better resolution,
which is coming
8)

"A pulse into a coil generates an expanding magnetic field. The magnetic field comes into being by an underlying patterning of the ether. It is a cascade action on the part of the ether that causes the EFFECT of an expanding magnetic field. If you then cause a second magnetic field to expand through the same space as the already expanding magnetic field, a specific cascading action, apattern is setup in the ether which is the EQUIVALENT of a magnetic field and has many of the characteristics of a magnetic field. By this I mean it will interact with metals, and cause the EFFECT of a current, IF the field is moving across the metal.  I will refer to this field as a COMP field from now on."  -- spherics

Grumpy

Quote from: poynt99 on June 21, 2009, 06:26:04 PM
Credit goes to BEP for the "soliton" insight.

All efforts are being made to determine that this "pulse" is not some measurement artifact, and so far all indicators are that it is real and that it is a Soliton Pulse. Whether this pulse is ou or abnormal in any way is still to be determined.

I would assume that the late-comers are also making these efforts, and not jumping to unfounded conclusions.

.99

Isn't a soliton pulse a closed current, same as a travelling wave?
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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BEP

The JLN example - http://jnaudin.free.fr/spgen/index.htm - is using a primary and secondary. The firing pulse and Solitons are not in the same coil. The JLN layout is difficult to derive any usable power and allows the easier method of firing with a single pulse.

That one uses a coil that forces extra nodes/anti-nodes by the winding method.

The one posted by .99 uses a solenoid wound coil. No trickery in the wind. However, you can get the same results on this type of coil by jamming one pulse after another. The main difference is no secondary is required and it can be a closed circuit.

My goal on such an arrangement would be to have two or more such coils compressing the space between them and driving all coils with timing that would continue the same sequence. This should cause the lowest point of the waves to continue away from zero. In other words - DC.

Like .99 has said - this still can be a wiring or device anomaly - at this point I doubt it.

Yes, this thing is an oxymoron. It is a traveling standing wave with no reflected wave. Very little, if any flyback should be visible. The reflection of circular polarization is reverse rotation. The wave and the reflection should pass right through one another, if you can find something that will reflect it.

OU or not these waves are interesting to work with.

Grumpy

Quote from: BEP on June 21, 2009, 08:30:25 PM
The JLN example - http://jnaudin.free.fr/spgen/index.htm - is using a primary and secondary. The firing pulse and Solitons are not in the same coil. The JLN layout is difficult to derive any usable power and allows the easier method of firing with a single pulse.

That one uses a coil that forces extra nodes/anti-nodes by the winding method.

The one posted by .99 uses a solenoid wound coil. No trickery in the wind. However, you can get the same results on this type of coil by jamming one pulse after another. The main difference is no secondary is required and it can be a closed circuit.

My goal on such an arrangement would be to have two or more such coils compressing the space between them and driving all coils with timing that would continue the same sequence. This should cause the lowest point of the waves to continue away from zero. In other words - DC.

Like .99 has said - this still can be a wiring or device anomaly - at this point I doubt it.

Yes, this thing is an oxymoron. It is a traveling standing wave with no reflected wave. Very little, if any flyback should be visible. The reflection of circular polarization is reverse rotation. The wave and the reflection should pass right through one another, if you can find something that will reflect it.

OU or not these waves are interesting to work with.

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It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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