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Latest: No back torque generator.

Started by broli, May 01, 2009, 09:04:43 AM

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Yucca

Quote from: lumen on May 12, 2009, 12:24:52 PM
The field does spin with the magnet, you just need a better method to detect it!

Maybe so, I couldn't say otherwise at the moment. But as you agree an inductive pickup coil placed in the proximity of an axially spinning disc mag does not produce voltage then I think we are both in agreement that standard induction does not produce the current in a homopolar gen. But some aspect of the whole field moving may produce the effect. It's all uncharted territory, which makes it a fascinating subject. I think more experiments are needed. :)

Yucca

@TinselKoala

I enjoy all your vids, great stuff especially like your mini van-de-graffs!

RE Homopolar gennies, what are your thoughts on everything rotating, the magnet, the conductive disk, the takeoff wires and the load. Do you think any current would flow if the load and takeoff were partially shielded from the flux?

TinselKoala

Quote from: Yucca on May 12, 2009, 12:53:04 PM
@TinselKoala

I enjoy all your vids, great stuff especially like your mini van-de-graffs!

RE Homopolar gennies, what are your thoughts on everything rotating, the magnet, the conductive disk, the takeoff wires and the load. Do you think any current would flow if the load and takeoff were partially shielded from the flux?

Thanks. I don't know, but I think probably not. I do know that Tom Valone has done some experiments along those lines, and so have I, but with a Marinov variant using a ring instead of a disk. I think I've made a Siberian Coilu motor that has no or much reduced back-reaction, and I believe it qualifies as a homopolar variant. I hope the researchers on this thread do try the various experiments, because I know these motor/generators (I include Marinov's) have much to teach about the unknown or at least ambiguously known features of electromagnetism.

gravityblock

Quote from: IotaYodi on May 12, 2009, 11:25:28 AM
If the flux is traveling at sub light I would say no since the flux totally encompasses the disk. You would need some type of impedance to create another "vortex". A magnet already has one  between the poles. I would think you would have to overcome that one in order to create another one from the same mass/magnet. Which if possible would make that pole extend into midair perpendicular to the magnet itself and create the opposite pole on the other side. You would then have 2 sets of poles perpendicular to each other. +     

I accept that there is a vortex between the poles.  So, the vortex is dynamic and is changing while the poles are static and not changing.

The static field interacts with other magnets, while the dynamic vortex field between the poles interacts with iron and steel.  Don't confuse the terms static or not changing with being stationary.

This is one of the experiments I previously mentioned about doing with the homopolar generator that has yet to be asked.

I still don't see how the field is stationary and doesn't rotate with the magnet when spinning on it's axis, but the field does move with the magnet when spinning on it's poles.  If the magnet is spinning on both it's axis and poles, then how would the field be?  It would then be possible to have 2 sets of poles and 2 sets of vortexes between the poles which would be perpendicular to each other like you mentioned, and I don't think this is the case (although it may appear to be the case due to the magnet's movements even if the field is moving with the magnet?  LOL).  I don't think the field is stationary no matter how the magnet is moving, rotating, or spinning.

Maybe everyone is partially correct and partially wrong.

Oh, and I could be totally wrong.   ;D
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IotaYodi

QuoteI don't think the field is stationary no matter how the magnet is moving, rotating, or spinning.
If the magnet is revolved the field is revolving with it. But the direction or orbit of the field itself should stay the same. Sort of like taking a bearing (field) and putting it on a rod (magnet). Then tie a string on the rod and spin it around over your head. The rod is moving horizontally,and the bearing (field) is moving horizontally with the rod, while the bearing (field) has its own vertical orbit.
I know Sweet tuned a magnet to a certain frequency for producing cold electricity. I assume it was the "Vortex","Neutral" or center of the poles that was the cause for it. The bigger the load the colder it got and to the point of freezing. The "tuning" may have been to totally separate the poles given you free space, and then using the Vortex as a conductor in some manner. It would eventually de-tune and  he would have to keep re-tuning the magnet. Some scary anomalies happening with this. Anyone who can conquer this will have the ultimate power source and maybe even anti gravity.
If you have never seen these videos check them out. They all deal with how magnetism works contrary to quantum theory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evfUTmx0uh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmE11_E-rdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvWeYJg9Oxs
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