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Sonic Resonator Results and Findings, As Well As LTspice Models To Download

Started by D.R.Jackson, May 08, 2009, 07:52:27 PM

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AbbaRue

The output of the simulation was made up of pulses.
When pulses are involved then you are trading time for power.
Charge a cap over time and then release that power as a pulse.
This tends to mess up measuring devices too.



poynt99

Quote from: AbbaRue on May 11, 2009, 10:19:56 PM
The output of the simulation was made up of pulses.
When pulses are involved then you are trading time for power.
Charge a cap over time and then release that power as a pulse.
This tends to mess up measuring devices too.

YES ;)

It would seem Mr. Jackson either does not agree with or does not understand this. A square wave is 50% duty cycle. Anything else and the duty cycle must be used to calculate the RMS value.

Also, the DC offset has to be considered as well. For example a square wave (or more correctly a pulse train with 50% ton and toff) that extends only from 0V to +10V has a RMS voltage of 7.07V, not 10V (and not 5V).

.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=248
Towards Realizing the TPU V1.4: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=217
Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209

TinselKoala

In all fairness, I think he's attempted to account for duty cycle--at least his concept of it. In fact his claim of OU depends rather sensitively on "duty cycle", and in my mind a big problem, as I have tried to show, is that his output isn't square enough to justify his assumptions. Particularly the duty cycle calculation. Hence, even on the face of it, using his own data, the claim of OU fails.

All this, of course, ignores the issue that he can simply have LTSpice integrate the instantaneous power waveforms over a given amount of time to give the actual input and output ENERGY--as was done in the original posting of the info in this thread--by, was it .99 ? I forget, and since the original thread has vanished down the memory hole, I can't check and see.

fritz

AGAIN ....

How should a numerical machine based on traditional EE proof OU ?
Thats a quite fundamental question.
The explanations so far are that OU exists because of incomplete models, special material effects, cold fusion, quantum effects, not yet discovered magnetic effects, anomalies (....)

_ALL THIS STUFF IS ____NOT____ EMULATED BY SPICE_   

(how can you implement things you dont know?)

How should a programmed numerical non OU machine exceed COP 1 if ?

The only answers are rounding and iteration artefacts.

A cow is not a dog.

This is quite fundamental issue.
What do you think ?

Can I pull myself out of the lake on my own hair ?

===== THE INTERESTING THINGS ARE WHEN SPICE PREDICTS SOMETHING COMPLETLY DIFFERENT - AS HAPPENS IN AN EXPERIMENT (taken all the usual suspects aside) =======

So using Spice to discover OU is a "Schildbürgerstreich".

For the non-germans: The "Schildbürger" (kid book) are quite famous for their creativity.
They build a town hall and forget about the windows. They try to get light in by catching the light with bags and mouse-traps - and carry them into the building (....)

Ghazanfar_Ali

Dear Friend. Here is another LTSpice circuit by some friend I have forgotten his name. I implemented it in  LTspice, optimized it by slightly modifying and changing values of the components. I am attaching it here for study and analysis. I will appreciate comments by all on it. Thanks in advance. I am also attaching the actual cct by that unknown friend here, which I optimized to get more power output. You can drive the same with a 5V DC also. It was basically enlisted in Joule Thief category.