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Bob Boyce 101 efficiency details

Started by WilbyInebriated, May 12, 2009, 08:48:10 PM

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WilbyInebriated

Quote from: newbie123 on May 14, 2009, 09:31:38 PM
You don't have to trust me...  Everything I said about Faraday efficiency, is  proven in  labs by scientists, daily... And is common (science) knowledge...   But I wanted you to double check those calculations, so you could actually "Trust" them...   But now  know you're still interested, I'll continue.  Loner already  checked the math for you anyway  (Thanks  Loner).
i don't, i thought that was obvious...  great, grand, wonderful. where's the meat n potatoes? you know, the proof that's in the pudding? anyone can sit in an ivory tower of knowledge gleaned from wikipedia, just look at farrahday...
YOUR CALCULATIONS ARE NOTHING MORE THAN CALCULATIONS and a weak substitute to actually doing a test run with a physical experiment.

Quote from: newbie123 on May 14, 2009, 09:31:38 PM
My data?  Like measurement from my cell (data)?     How about I just show you the  math, and misunderstandings that people have (which I already did, so you should have a clue), then find an example online?
so that's a no then. you don't have a cell. you don't have any measurements of your own bob boyce101 to demonstrate the "problems' with efficiency calculations and the bob boyce cell... that's what this was all about if you remember... you probably don't.   

Quote from: newbie123 on May 14, 2009, 09:31:38 PM
Uh... what?   Does this even make sense?
so that's a no then, you don't have a cell or data.
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WilbyInebriated

look newb, you need to show us your cell, demonstrate with a DMM or your tool of choice that there is no 'leakage' as you so astutely noted before... along with a few other measurements before you go on about what calculations you are using.
don't go putting the cart before the horse...
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

newbie123

Wilby, before I go on (and waste my time most likely) ..  Let me ask you this..   Do you believe in science? Or even think Faraday's discoveries are useful with regard to electrolysis?
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: newbie123 on May 14, 2009, 10:19:06 PM
Wilby, before I go on (and waste my time most likely) ..  Let me ask you this..   Do you believe in science? Or even think Faraday's discoveries are useful with regard to electrolysis?
i sure do... do you? how do you say it? "Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them."
you need an experiment to take measurements no?
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

newbie123

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 14, 2009, 11:15:54 PM
i sure do... do you?
how do you say it? "Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them."
you need an experiment to take measurements no?

This is the type of ignorant response I expected  from you.     Electrolysis efficiency has been calculated correctly 1000s of times...  Do I need to measure it correctly to confirm that it actually works?  (..which I have)  Hell no!   It's been done many, many, many, times already...  If you knew how science  worked,  AND REALLY BELIEVED IN IT, you would understand that..  So don't start in with 10-year-old responses like the one above ..  FFS.


But, lets back up a few posts...

The topic and original 'challenge' wasn't to take measurements of my own cell (which you keep bringing up)...  Then make a video, showing the measurements,  or whatever it is  you have in your head  that I should do to prove 100+ percent Faraday calculations are flawed... 

The problem is many people aren't considering how series cells work while CALCULATING Faraday efficiency....   Or using a "MMW" calculation that is supposedly 100 percent efficiency (But, it's not)...    Their  MEASUREMENTS are fine (It's not hard to measure volts, amps, temperature, and gas volume)...   But their CALCULATIONS are flawed..  Which I told you I'd explain. ¿Comprende?





 
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.