Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

[Asymatrix]

New video 'Conventional vs regenerative acceleration generator'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3JVjbXOssQ

[baroutologos]

Hello again,

You must excuse my initial frustration since the damned motor failed to my expectations. I_ron was right. I have many things to learn from that, in low-medium rpm region.

So I had some interesting experiments past weekend and want to share info and actual findings.

Not taking into consideration the input power, feeding the inefficient motor as much as possible, i managed to achieved some 1200+ rpm. And, yes there was accelaration. I repeat, I confirm accelaration, as Mr T claimed. I do not own yet a tachymeter but its easy to see it by the increasing voltage produced due to rmp increase.

My coil specs: 55mm height, 13mm core stuffed with wire rods (33) insulated each other, wound smoothly (with a drill) with 0.3mm enameled wire @ 72 ohms.

As before, 0.13 more or less current was oscillated in that coil (AC) at 105+ volts


Regards,
Baroutologos

[baroutologos]

First Impressions
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Shorting means smoother action
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As mr T repeatedly said, the HV coil when shorted in the low rpm region (that's relative, for my case >900 rpm) showed a remarkable decelaration.
Between 900-1100 the shorted coil made no difference to rpm, whereas above 1100 it started slowly to accelarate. (not much though)

By the way, no matter what the rpm, (accelaration or deccelaration) when the coil remains unshorted infront the spinning rotor of neos there is signifficant vibration and noise in the whole structure.
When shorted, (accelarating or deccelarating) the vibration and cogging action just vanishes! It goes as if it is "lubricated", in a smooth fashion. Interesting effect...


HV coil shorted accelarates, if loaded then deccelarates!
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I reapetedly made the same experiment and observation. With two coils so far.
There is a peculiar property of the HV coil. When shorted and goes to accelaration mode, you can measure the current that oscillates in it. (mine had 0.13 Amps AC through it)
Notice i use the term "oscillating" current through it.

The bizzare thing is that, if you apply to the HV coil an signifficant load that restrain its oscillating current, (form 130 ma to 60 ma via an 1K ohm load) not only accelaration does vanishes, BUT, it start to act as a normal HC coil. (brake)

Notice that i did not reached those coclusions easily. But to my setup at least it more than obvious.

Bottom line, if I want to harvest any power from my HV coil, it must be done in such way as to impose as low as possible impedance to the oscillating current.

(Note the max outputted power that my HV coil can deliver in a 1kohm resistance and acts as a break is 3 watts, whereas if i connect it to charge a batt via a FWBR i can harvest almost 1watt with minimal if any deccelaration)

Regards,
Baroutologos

[hoptoad]

First Impressions
......................................................................
Shorting means smoother action
.....................................................................

As mr T repeatedly said, the HV coil when shorted in the low rpm region (that's relative, for my case >900 rpm) showed a remarkable decelaration.
Between 900-1100 the shorted coil made no difference to rpm, whereas above 1100 it started slowly to accelarate. (not much though)

By the way, no matter what the rpm, (accelaration or deccelaration) when the coil remains unshorted infront the spinning rotor of neos there is signifficant vibration and noise in the whole structure.
When shorted, (accelarating or deccelarating) the vibration and cogging action just vanishes! It goes as if it is "lubricated", in a smooth fashion. Interesting effect...


HV coil shorted accelarates, if loaded then deccelarates!
....................................................................................

I reapetedly made the same experiment and observation. With two coils so far.
There is a peculiar property of the HV coil. When shorted and goes to accelaration mode, you can measure the current that oscillates in it. (mine had 0.13 Amps AC through it)
Notice i use the term "oscillating" current through it.

The bizzare thing is that, if you apply to the HV coil an signifficant load that restrain its oscillating current, (form 130 ma to 60 ma via an 1K ohm load) not only accelaration does vanishes, BUT, it start to act as a normal HC coil. (brake)

Notice that i did not reached those coclusions easily. But to my setup at least it more than obvious.

Bottom line, if I want to harvest any power from my HV coil, it must be done in such way as to impose as low as possible impedance to the oscillating current.

(Note the max outputted power that my HV coil can deliver in a 1kohm resistance and acts as a break is 3 watts, whereas if i connect it to charge a batt via a FWBR i can harvest almost 1watt with minimal if any deccelaration)

Regards,
Baroutologos

Re read (if you have already) the experiment outlined on my website:
       http://www.totallyamped.net/adams
Read page 10 for the experiment and read page 11 for the explanation of results.

Your observations regarding rpm and load values are already covered on page 10 using incremental steps in loading and showing in graphical form what the expected result will be.

Cheers

[baroutologos]

Experiments with a new HV coil
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I decided to go up in HV coil turns so as to achieve accelaration from lower rpm. Oddly enough, in my setup it turned out that not to be the case.

I made a similar dimensions, same core, magnet gap etc HV coil wound with the same manner 0.3mm enameled wire at 113ohm this time.

I decided to mount it on the rotor next to the other working HV coil. (see previous posts for specs)

Findings
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With this one even though of greater impedance and higher generating voltage (120 vAC vs 100 vAC) the accelaration effect failed to manifest in the >1100 region.

From rough estimations and assuming that it has a similar behaviour to the other one, it should go above 1500rpm to do the trick, (my estimation). I was surpised to see that.

First conclusions
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The HV effect (or Mr T. effect ) it seems to be an superficial one that happens on the surface of the iron that gets-magnetized/demagnetized constantly and NOT be totally independent of the coil's impedance.

I now firmly believe (and i plan to prove it) that above a critical layer thickness over the iron core (that transfers the magnetic flux from magnet to windings) the surplus layers are just a burden, contributing at "loading the HV coil and diminishing the effect.

On the other hand, for that critical layer height that there is an active magnetization/demagnetization action zone you must have an "sufficient" number of turns to easily initiate the event. The more, the easier.(lower rpm initiation, higher voltage generation,but lower oscillating current and vice versa)

You can now understand what i suggest by observations only.

But, i need you people to verify or invalidate my findings that so as all to be on the same side.

Regards,
Baroutologos