Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

[Pageygeeza]

Hey, thanks i_Ron.

[CRANKYpants]

when the coil/core is directly over the magnet there is zero induced voltage...

Ron

WHEN THE COIL/CORE IS DIRECTLY OVER THE MAGNET THE INDUCED VOLTAGE IS MAXIMUM NOT ZERO.

AS THE COIL/CORE MOVES AWAY FROM THE MAGNET THE POLARITY CHANGES AND THE VOLTAGE BEGINS TO FALL TOWARDS ZERO.

THE INDUCED VOLTAGE DROPS TO ZERO WHEN THE COIL/CORE IS EXACTLY HALF WAY BETWEEN THE NEXT MAGNET ON THE ROTOR.

IF THE NEXT MAGNET ON THE ROTOR IS AN OPPOSITE POLE THEN THE INDUCED VOLTAGE WILL PROCEED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE Y AXIS ZERO POINT.

IF THE NEXT MAGNET ON THE ROTOR IS THE SAME POLARITY THEN THE INDUCED VOLTAGE WILL REMAIN ON ONE SIDE OF THE Y AXIS I.E. DC.

A MONO-POLE ROTOR WILL PRODUCE A DC "SINE WAVE" BUT IT IS ONLY ONE ONE SIDE OF THE SINE WAVE AXIS.


I AM PUTTING THIS HERE SO PEOPLE WILL INDERSTAND HOW THE HV COIL CAUSES ACCELERATION.

AT TOP DEAD CENTRE I.E. "when the coil/core is directly over the magnet" THE MAGNET IS NEITHER APPROACHING NOR RECEDING FROM THE COIL/CORE AND THE INDUCED VOLTAGE IN THE COIL IS MAXIMUM.

IT IS ONLY WHEN THE MAGNET IS APPROACHING OR RECEDING AWAY FROM THE COIL/CORE THAT THERE IS IMPEDANCE (AC RESISTANCE) IN THE COIL AND MINIMAL CURRENT FLOW.

AT TDC THE INDUCTIVE REACTANCE IS ZERO (COIL'S FREQUENCY DEPENDANT AC RESISTANCE) AND THE COIL'S IMPEDANCE (INDUCTIVE REACTANCE + DC RESISTANCE) TO CURRENT FLOW DROPS TO THE DC RESISTANCE OF THE COIL.

SO NOW AT TDC WHEN THE INDUCED VOLTAGE IS MAXIMUM (NOT ZERO) AND THE COIL'S IMPEDANCE IS MINIMAL - MAXIMUM CURRENT CAN FLOW AND PRODUCE THE MAXIMUM DELAYED MAGNETIC FIELD REQUIRED TO PUSH THE NOW REDEEDING MAGNET AWAY WITH ADDITIONAL FORCE.

SO IT SHOULD BE CLEAR THAT IF THE COIL'S INDUCED VOLTAGE AT TDC WAS ZERO THERE WOULD BE NO CURRENT AND NO MAGNETIC FIELD PRODUCTION AND NO ROTOR ACCELERATION.

T

[hoptoad]

WHEN THE COIL/CORE IS DIRECTLY OVER THE MAGNET THE INDUCED VOLTAGE IS MAXIMUM NOT ZERO.

T

LOL .......

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/worksheets/acgen.html

Go and read question 7 then Click on Reveal Answer.
Particularly read the notes in the answer section.

LOL ... I'm with I_Ron on this one.

[baroutologos]

I am with mr T. regarding voltage and magnet possitioning, although i do not agree fully. I have some experience with same pollar generators (as my current setup is) and they create a full sine wave of less amptitude than alternating pole setup. (Note that between magnets, no matter what the spacing is there is a scallar opposite pole of less power)

Anyway, at TDC voltage is not zero.

Could not be zero.
If voltage was zero then Peripeteia (as well as many other devices) could never work, since impedance has choked current and afterwards, no voltage exists to push electrons in the desired direction.

So following this reasoning we can conclude safely there is voltage at TDC.

Regards,
Baroutologos

[wattsup]

@hoptoad

I agree with this as AC but not DC. I will take Thanes stance on this for my post because but either way is understandable.

@TH

Thanks or breaking down the mag passage into fragments showing TDC = Maximum. This is just reinforcing what I posting earlier.

If the TDC is maximum, we can agree that you will never get any more then the maximum, so the high end of the wave is fixed and can only play on frequency. What can be played with is how low you can go to get as close to the Zero Point, hence producing the greatest sweep of extremes possible.

One side remark, when the magnets are placed in a tight circle, I have found that even though one would suppose that each magnet keeps its individual magnetic strength, there is a phenomenon we have seen that I have called "crowning" of the magnets where all the magnets converge into one circular field going all the way to the center of the rotor wheel. As if each magnet is now spread out further in a more homogeneous field. But if you have a set magnetic strength and you spread this strength out further, one can surmise that the actual direct applied magnetic strength will be lower.

But here is my main point, since the magnets are placed one immediately beside the other, there is no possibility of actually getting close to the zero point, since as one magnet is half off the core, the other magnet is already on the just cleared half. This means no zero possible. You are probably sweeping between maximum being 100% and 40%-50% at best. But no where near 0%.

For the sweep to reach its greatest spread, the distance between each magnet would have to be at least equal to the coils core diameter. Even then it would not be 0% because the magnets field of influence goes further out then the magnet itself, but for clarity sake, let's say such an influence is minimal.

Example: If you had two rotors with let's say 8 or 10 magnets on each with good spacing in between and the coils are placed so that the magnet passage over two coils is one side, other side in succession, each side would have maximum zeroing potential while still placing the same amount of total magnets across the same total number of coils. Just thinking out load.

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On another note, I read that thread that someone posted of that other forum. Seems like you were getting clobbered by that one member. Life is definitely not easy when you are in inventor mode, being treated like that.

I think your main problem is one of marketing, which I am very familiar with. How do you sell this idea. How do you explain this idea in the simplest and most understandable way that even a 7 year old child could understand it. That's what you need to convey.

Maybe consider that Perepetia should not be considered a free energy device but it is a way of increasing motor efficiency to a point that free energy "could" be more possible. Not that it is, but could be a possible step towards OU. If you took this stance, then others will stop attacking you and look at this as a potential step towards an OU device and this will mean others can then participate in this research with a view of advancing it further.

Otherwise you will always have a difficult time explaining this when guys see 34 watts output and 240 watts input, the correlation of this being non OU is too flagrant and will be difficult to explain.

If you concentrate on the fact that if this was solely a magnet to coil issue, that motor was consuming 600 watts and never had enough power to produce even 1 watt, but with the Perepetia method, it is producing a good 34 watts, this is where you need to concentrate your explanations.

Just thinking out load again.