Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

[LarryC]

@Thane,

Can you please tell us where you purchased these EI's cores you showed in January?

Thanks, Larry

[Kator01]

Hi I_ron,

fantastic, really. Very good work. Now I refer to your picture with thw 1.2 K Ohm - Load in your post #239 as in this picture the asymetry of the wave is seen better that in the ones with bigger loads.

I have never thought about asymetry in the magnet-positions before I saw these scope-shots
In this picture one can see that -when the middle magnet receeds the -di/dt is enhanced by the approaching next magnet of opposite polarity. This can be crearly seen by the bigger amplitude of the downswing.
Now this also means that the positive peak of the magnetic force ( power )
appearing in the coil will not make it to the right side of the TDC-Line.

But.. what if you establish an asymetry in the magnet positions in the following way :

     S N N   etc

I would expect - and I am in the risk of being totally wrong here, but it is worth trying - that the downswing will be delayed and we will get the chance to arrive with the peak force at the right side of the TDC-Line.

What do you think ?

Regards

Kator01

[i_ron]

Hi I_ron,

fantastic, really. Very good work. Now I refer to your picture with thw 1.2 K Ohm - Load in your post #239 as in this picture the asymetry of the wave is seen better that in the ones with bigger loads.

I have never thought about asymetry in the magnet-positions before I saw these scope-shots
In this picture one can see that -when the middle magnet receeds the -di/dt is enhanced by the approaching next magnet of opposite polarity. This can be crearly seen by the bigger amplitude of the downswing.
Now this also means that the positive peak of the magnetic force ( power )
appearing in the coil will not make it to the right side of the TDC-Line.

But.. what if you establish an asymetry in the magnet positions in the following way :

     S N N   etc

I would expect - and I am in the risk of being totally wrong here, but it is worth trying - that the downswing will be delayed and we will get the chance to arrive with the peak force at the right side of the TDC-Line.

What do you think ?

Regards

Kator01

Yes, it is fascinating to follow up the wave form as the load increases.
Not too sure what you are suggesting... SSNNSSNN? I had tried that before but never scoped it.

Incidentally this coil didn't show "acelleration" but under controlled load tests I see why...1/8 inch gap and 1/2 inch square core...

no load... 3.48 watts draw

1k2 load ...27 watts draw

100 ohm load...5.8watts draw

10 ohm load... 4.6 watt draw

shorted... 3.48 watts draw

So you can see that the greatest output (not measured) was also with the 1k2 ohm load. (the above watt numbers are on top of a 44 watt drive requirement, ie: the total draw on the 1k2 load test was 71.16 watts)

So a very good suggestion, sorry it took so long but it took half a dozen tries to get it right... working on slapper's post next...

Ron

[baroutologos]

So, to a degree we are saying the same thing. That is a non-accellarating coil, if shorted poses no effort (or little) on prime mover.

But if you dare to try to extract some serious energy from it by applying a suitable load (1k2ohm) in your case then the Prime mover must pay for that.

Anyway, my next task is to find out how much energy can be outputed from a coil well into the accellaration range till it will become a neutral one.

I have noted as the inventor also pointed out that all loads applied must be of lowest possible impedance/resistance.

By the way, in this fashion you can only extract a fraction of the energy that coil can give as in employing in a normal generator mode.

Regards,
Baroutologos

[CRANKYpants]

So, to a degree we are saying the same thing. That is a non-accellarating coil, if shorted poses no effort (or little) on prime mover.

YOU ARE OPERATING INSIDE THE COIL'S BOUNDRY REGION

But if you dare to try to extract some serious energy from it by applying a suitable load (1k2ohm) in your case then the Prime mover must pay for that.

THE LOAD CHANGES THE COIL'S OPERATING POINT TO BELOW THE BOUNDRY REGION.

Anyway, my next task is to find out how much energy can be outputed from a coil well into the accellaration range till it will become a neutral one.

YOU WILL HAVE TO CREATE A COIL THAT WHEN STEPPED DOWN AND ON LOAD IS STILL OPERATING IN THE UPPER BOUNDRY REGION.

I have noted as the inventor also pointed out that all loads applied must be of lowest possible impedance/resistance.

NOT REALLY IT ALL DEPENDS WHAT REACTION YOU WANT TO CREATE I.E.:

LOAD                    HV ARMATURE REACTION                    HC ARMATURE REACTION

NO LOAD                   NONE                                              NONE

LOAD X                     MINIMAL ACCELERATION                     MINIMAL DECELERATION

LOAD Y                     MODERATE ACCELERATION                  MODERATE DECELERATION

SHORT CIRCUIT          MAXIMUM ACCELERATION                    MAXIMUM DECELERATION

By the way, in this fashion you can only extract a fraction of the energy that coil can give as in employing in a normal generator mode.

Regards,
Baroutologos

LATEST YOUTUBE VIDEO VIDEO 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3JVjbXOssQ&feature=channel_page

NORMAL GENERATOR MODE - ENERGY EXTRACTED = 7 WATTS
ARMATURE REACTION                                        = 21 RPM DECELERATION
MOTOR RESPONSE                                            = 10 WATT DRAW INCREASE
LOAD COST                                                                 = 3 WATTS

REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION MODE - ENERGY EXTRACTED = 43.8 WATTS
ARMATURE REACTION                                                     = 49 RPM ACCELERATION
MOTOR RESPONSE                                                         = 20 WATT DRAW DECREASE
LOAD COST                                                                                 = - 63.8 WATTS

PERFOMANCE SUMMARY

REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION GENERATOR PROVIDES 39 WATTS MORE POWER
OVER
THE CONVENTIONAL GENERATOR WITH 23 WATTS LESS TO THE PRIME MOVER.

T

P.S.
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO ALL!