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There is no Over Unity

Started by IronShell3d, May 31, 2009, 03:49:00 AM

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newbie123

Quote from: IronShell3d on May 31, 2009, 07:39:27 PM
Hi Lostcauses10x,

All energy MUST come from some where.

The energy that creates the magnetic field of a magnet comes from the 4 unpaired shell 3d electrons, spinning forever around the Iron Atom.

They have energy, just like the forever spinning electrons in a super conducting magnet have energy.

Super conducting magnets/circuits do not require energy to keep a current moving.    They just have extremely low resistance, so the current flows for longer periods of time.

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In the case of the super conducting magnet, the energy came from the EMF source that caused the current / electrons to flow, which was in the end result, the sun.

Likewise the energy that creates the magnets magnetic field comes from the sun.

The energy used to create magnets could have come from many different sources,  the sun, nuclear power plants, earth's crust, gravity even (in fossil fuel), since pressure is required  to produce fossil fuels..   But what is the point of saying this energy is responsible for the formation of a magnet? It doesn't make sense to me.

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So a magnet motor would be powered by the Sun and there is no overunity, just a VERY LONG TIME between the energy being stored in the 4 unpaired shell 3d spinning Iron atom electrons and it being used.

Thus the search for a magnet motor is not outside science at all. In fact it is research at the heart of what makes atoms and electrons exist.

This isn't true either.   If a magnet motor could convert the magnet field into usable energy, and slowly demagnetize the magnet and consume the 'stored energy' then it would me more likely (considering science).


Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

Alien509

If the electrons align then the energy that exists in the galaxy suddenly begins to flow. It's like opening a valve. It does take some energy to get the electrons to align in a certain direction but once the phase and speed have been matched properly the energy begins to flow against gradients. Each atom behaves the exact same way each galaxy in the universe does because they are constitutes of the greater structure. A covalent bond is an interesting thing to study because I would view each atom as a theoretical galaxy. The alignment creates enough energy to release whatever is bonding that structure. It does perplex me because even the genome follows similar rules. The question is what happens when such a thing occurs on such a macro scale? What sort of bridge are we part of?

newbie123

Quote from: Alien509 on June 02, 2009, 12:08:54 PM
If the electrons align then the energy that exists in the galaxy suddenly begins to flow. It's like opening a valve. It does take some energy to get the electrons to align in a certain direction but once the phase and speed have been matched properly the energy begins to flow against gradients. Each atom behaves the exact same way each galaxy in the universe does because they are constitutes of the greater structure. A covalent bond is an interesting thing to study because I would view each atom as a theoretical galaxy. The alignment creates enough energy to release whatever is bonding that structure. It does perplex me because even the genome follows similar rules. The question is what happens when such a thing occurs on such a macro scale? What sort of bridge are we part of?

Atoms are nothing like galaxies, actually.  And what do you mean by "electrons align then the energy that exists in the galaxy suddenly begins to flow"   ... This sounds like home brew physics to me.   ;)

Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

Alien509

Quote from: newbie123 on June 02, 2009, 12:39:26 PM
Atoms are nothing like galaxies, actually.  And what do you mean by "electrons align then the energy that exists in the galaxy suddenly begins to flow"   ... This sounds like home brew physics to me.   ;)

You need to study radioactive decay.

newbie123

Quote from: Alien509 on June 02, 2009, 01:10:50 PM
You need to study radioactive decay.

I have,  and nowhere does it speak of galaxy energy flowing when electrons align..   Radio active decay is more related to an unstable atomic nucleus,   and the energy that "flows" or is emitted in energetic particles comes from the atom's whole "mass-energy".


Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.