Do we need Free Energy at all ?

[TechStuf]

Considering the long track record of greedy 'new world odor' types, and their suppression of so many worthwhile technologies, I'd venture to say that you are correct, no new technologies are needed in order to return to sustainability.  However, man seems to be intent on proving beyond a reasonable doubt that it is beyond his grasp to rule himself.


"I will bring to ruin, those ruining the earth". - Almighty God


TS

[Goat]

It’s common to think that we are among an energy crisis, but looking at
it from the other end, what we see is “energy consumption crisis”, which
stream from the growing number of electric appliances/instruments which
are “inflicting” on us by the “new technology craze”. 

Who will resist a new laptop w/ 5GHZ + 1,000 GB HD for $1,200 ?
or a washing machine / dryer in one unit for $1,600 ?  And a long list of
“future machines” that based on electricity ?
On the other end, what if HP annual sales will remain the same for 5 years ?
What if Apple’s sale will drop 4 years in a raw ? 
What if the annual revenue of Germany will not grow from year to year ?
Those beasts must be fed, no matter what.  This is the name of the game.
And consumption for electricity, will keep rising globally. Yes free energy,
No free energy - that’s minor. Because the free energy personal device, all
it can do is to serve the growing demand, and the environmental and health
by-products of this craze, sooner or later will start
to show it’s face.

Go and find on the net a serious research about this type of pollution. You will
find a few of them, old ones about the cell phone hysteria in 2001 and maybe
a few more, since no one suspect 7 billion electricity consumers can do any harm…..
Just look back 100 years or so, who would mess w/ the oil companies that pushed
forward the car industry without suspecting there is something wrong ?
Isn’t that what happen now w/ electricity ? Even if we had OU personal devices ?

  As a rule, everything that is manufacturer artificially by human - have a price.
It’s not because I say so, it’s how this earth is built, how weather function, how
our nerve system function, how forests cleans the air, etc. etc.
Or if you want to be more honest with yourself, buy a gauss meter and walk around
your house and see all this free energy radiation spills at every corner…..  So maybe
some heath departments told you “it’s not danger”, but that’s exactly what they said
in New York 1940 about the air pollution….

I’m not suggesting what to do or not what to do, since I don’t have a solution for that,
just bring up another aspect of the device you are trying to build. Another direction
to think about is how to reduce the demand for energy, instead of build another new
technology (OU) that will support this line ?


Cheers.

@ rangerover444

The only option to end all the problems you mention is to end Consumerism and Planned obsolescence (just to name a few) which is what runs the North American free market which in turn rules the world economy!  No consumerism no worldwide market attention towards the biggest consumerism market!

There would be a lot less waste of natural resources, but could we survive without all the latest go go gadgets and still support 7 billion people without a consumerism market? 

The answer isn't simple but I agree with you in that energy consumption is one of the biggest problems and all the pollution that goes with it.  But at the same time people need a job in order to survive, so what is the answer here I don't know except go for OU

What would you suggest?

Regards,
Paul

[Goat]

@ rangerover444

Here's a scenario.

Take an OU device that can drive a car that's made to last over 100 years, we could all own ONE car for life that wouldn't emit C02!  So if the electrical emissions were contained would that not be a better use of technology than the present course were on?

Sure you'd kill a lot of jobs but it would solve a big percentage of the C02 problem.  People can adapt to new jobs as long as we create them for people being displaced by disruptive technology.

Regards,
Paul

[nightlife]

We don't need free energy. We actually dont need anything more then food water and shelter to survive.

Greed is what sends us on our quest for energy. Energy makes life easier but at the same time, it makes us lazier. Energy has created a life dependancy on it. We have to have money to have it and with that comes another greed to have money.
Some work for it, some steal it, some inherit it, some beg for it and some win it. Bottom line is that we must do one of those things to live. You can't just live off the land becuase you have to own the land, pay taxes and or pay rent which requires having money to do. Our greed for things has made us dependant on others. We are controled by our own greed that is instilled in the masses. We will never be free as long as we the masses want for things we do not need.
We own nothing and we are all subjected to loosing everything at any given time.

So why do we need free energy at all? We don't, we just want it just like we want everything thing else we want and don't need.

Our greed needs it!

[Goat]

@ All

Coming from a farming background all the way to high tech I can tell you that feeding 7 billion people isn't an easy task!

We've got a population that can and will eat us out of house and home!

I chose not to have children on this basis 30 years ago!

Answer to all the worlds problem is STOP PROCREATING!!! Simple as that!  We've already gone too far for what the planet can sustain.

There is not enough minerals being replenished in agricultural soil to cope with the output of crops.  In order to self sustain the earth you are planting for crops is to grow and crop then give it a break for a decade and feed it back before planting there again unless you add something like compost and manure back to that earth patch, this means that you're taking something away from the rest of the 7 billion others trying to survive.

OK, take everything you drink and eat in a day and put it back on your soil    How do we do that?
Well it only takes a hard look at how many people are using water toilets and there you have it, 2 to 5 gallons per # 1 or 2 to 5 gallons per # 2. Plus all the liquids and organic materials going out of the earth and into the drain 

Now take all what I mentioned and add all the animals being raised for our consumption and repeat the above all over again 

See what I mean, and that's just the tip of the iceberg which is melting.

God speed to everyone, I'm still holding out for OU to help us out of this mess some day.

Regards,
Paul