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AC from Joule Thief Secondary/pick-up

Started by jeanna, June 16, 2009, 03:11:33 PM

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stprue

This sounds very interesting Jeanna.  I do not see a connection between xtree and the right half of your circuit.  Is it using induction?

jeanna

Quote from: stprue on September 19, 2009, 12:03:22 PM
This sounds very interesting Jeanna.  I do not see a connection between xtree and the right half of your circuit.  Is it using induction?
Hi stprue,
The right hand of the circuit starts with S1 and S2 which are 2 pickups wrapped around the same toroid which is xtree.
there is no electrical connection.
The connection is magnetic.
We have talked around this subject from time to time, but whatever you end up calling them, they are technically transformer secondaries.
All the pulses generated in the system begin with the one transistor switching on and off.

Thanks for asking. Please, continue if there are more questions,

jeanna

jeanna

Hi all,
I just tried a couple of things plus I have a little pic/pair.
I tried to use that wall wart transformer again and again nothing happened. I am beginning to be sure the reason it was at the thrift store was that it was shorted out. Too bad it was 5v from 110, so in reverse it should be great, but, oh well.

I have noticed that the red filter which I am using purely as an inductor 1.39mH to stop the S1 lights from taking all the juice and turning out the S2 lights, has 5volts on the other side... the filter.
This is strange but I am sure it is the extra that is being radiated off.
The voltage across all 16 lights of the S1 is 35v tonight, and on the other side of this filter is this 5v. (I put it on the schematic the other day.)
It should turn on a led. In fact it does, and it does in either direction, which is cool.

I am also trying gimp. I am sure there is a line smoothing function, but I didn't look for it. I just made a squiggly line around the light I am talking about.

I think you can see that it is as bright as all the rest.
The pic is taken with the 33r resistor so the true brightness is great..

This is actually the first time I have been able to do this. and it is how Tesla drew his circuits.
Up til now, I have been adding the inductors in series.
This is the first one where I am using the 'other side' of the transformer. I am not going to make a schematic yet. I will need to change it because this is happening where there is no more room on the page! :D

I also need to mention that I have added a toroid tanked with a 1uF in series with the whole S2 -- L4. I found that if I pulled the toroid inductor out the S2 lights went out.

This is getting to be fun... 'when in doubt add another inductor'

Here are 2 pix, the dark one is the same so you can see the evenness of the brightness all around.

jeanna

Edit:
Oh this is cool. I just posted it next door so I won't repeat it all here, but I realized that the inductors I have been adding are doing exactly what Tesla was doing with the spark gaps. The inductors of the S1 and S2 circuits are all being fed spikes and so they in turn will produce additional levels or heights of spikes in the same way the d..d discharge points in Tesla's circuits do.
I have been wondering why he didn't use additional inductors. I can still wonder, but I now see that he was using the discharge as I am using additional inductors.

Pirate88179

Jeanna:

Very nice!  I think that fellow Kapanadze uses both inductors and a spark gap.  There is definitely something to this for sure.  Nice work.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

stprue

Quote from: jeanna on September 19, 2009, 02:12:25 PM
Hi stprue,
The right hand of the circuit starts with S1 and S2 which are 2 pickups wrapped around the same toroid which is xtree.
there is no electrical connection.
The connection is magnetic.
We have talked around this subject from time to time, but whatever you end up calling them, they are technically transformer secondaries.
All the pulses generated in the system begin with the one transistor switching on and off.

Thanks for asking. Please, continue if there are more questions,

jeanna

Sorry for the delay in response, now I understand!  If you haven't noticed I'm not very good at reading circuit diagrams  ;D