Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[fuzzytomcat]

@ TK

Hey, I really like all your videos on the "Ground Loop" issue there very informative and should be easy for anyone to follow on what I'm sure you agree the issue of "grounding" is very important. I would say that the only thing that could have been nice is a close still photo up of the scope shot so everyone could easily seen the difference between each subject (loop, frequency, noise or dirt) but good stuff.

I'm attaching the PDF that was forwarded earlier to members such as yourself for your review on "Stray Voltages" in best and worse case, I call it the "cow" document published in 1986. The information is prepared as an activity of the North Dakota Power Use Council, an organization of the Rural Electric Cooperatives, Investor Owned Utilities, Generating and Transmission Cooperatives, North Dakota State University of Agriculture and Applied Science and the Rural Electrification Administration in North Dakota. This is in a dairy situation a milking parlor and the length to which one has to go to limit "Voltages" from neutral to earth below .5 volts or the "miking cows" will be shocked, from resistive and inductive loads.

http://www.ag.ndsu.nodak.edu/abeng/pdffiles/epq108.pdf 

There are also Three (3) other attached drawings two (2) modified to show what diffrences between the United States and UK, European, Asian and African connections from the "high voltage" transmission lines, pole step down transformer to the structure electrical service panel (home , farm or business all the same utility service line connections). The USA 120/240 Volt transformer winding center tap 3-wire and the UK, European, Asian and African 240 Volt transformer winding 2-wire are the first two.

The third drawing is a illustration of the only "ground loop" through the water pipe , and to anyone reading this, what TK did find and show us was outstanding work these things we are discussing are hidden voltages, frequencies and harmonics induced into our "neutral-grounding" system and out of our control and it's only getting worse.

My Quote posted in response to your remark .....  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7620.msg191700#msg191700

OK, I'll tell you. The one on the right is the probe, and the one on the left is the probe's ground lead alligator clip.
It is connected to the terminal where I connect the negative battery terminal and also an Earth ground ( a wire to a cold water pipe under my kitchen sink which I always use in electrostatic experiments--which, by the way, show far far more "free" energy that any mosfet circuit can.

This was because of items I saw, one not identified and was actually a oscillating "audio" signal only you were able to see, the find is totally yours, and possibly I think has some significance to it as even Stefan thinks this could also be a possibility.

The one you didn't find was also not to obvious a water pipe "ground loop" (A) or better known as the RF antenna system, I would imagine that you live in the basement of a two story home with a bath on the 2nd floor maybe, with that nice scope shot on the mains you got is really busy.

To correct this I would recommend to get a 15a 120v replacement plug cord end, and use a #12 AWG "green" wire only in the assembly and plug it into the receptacle (*) where you have your electronics pluged into, if there isn't enough plugs for your electronics add a plug strip into one of the first plug strip receptacles (back to back plug strips) so as the grounding has equal potential. Try not to use the plug strip for this testing ground as the plug strips uses #16 AWG wire which limits the amps to around 12 or so maximum.

I would also like your or other members opinion's on what type of power "testing" system to get this grounding plane problem resolved, a isolated ground system is expensive for replicators building devices that need this clean ground. I saw after posting the "ground -grounded - grounding" posting here and at Energetic, Aaron in a YouTube video came up with a 12 Volt car battery with a 120 VAC inverter for his scope operation which could possibly work for everyone what are your thoughts ?? OR do you think a UPS is the way to go ??

Regards,
Fuzzy
   

[TinselKoala]

Hi FuzzyTom
Thanks for that, that's a big chunk of info but it's important stuff, maybe will save someone some trouble, and it certainly reveals some stuff I didn't know about the Euro system as opposed to N America.

Your water pipe circuit is almost right, but the nipple that comes out under my sink comes in from outside, I believe, not down from up. It's on a branch that feeds the rear lawn hose bib, other end goes to the cold side of the water heater, and its feed pipes appear to be buried in the concrete of the basement floor. I think it's a pretty good earth for the electrostatic stuff, but certainly RF can make it in.

The idea of using a consumer-grade inverter or UPS on an instrumentation system gives me cold chills. But I suppose it's done all the time. Still, I recommend scoping your power supply...if you are using one of those inverters or UPS you might be surprised at what you see.

Since the circuit we're testing is battery powered and not normally earthed (or is it? Another ambiguity) and since the claim at issue is not one of third or second order effects - - COP>17, heat output -- a little imprecision in rough bench testing is permitted, I think.

Back to the Issue, though...I'm uploading a couple vids of my adventures today with Aaron's circuit, trying to get these mysterious oscillations that are the key to free energy.

And maybe I finally did. And the cause of them, at least in this case, is pretty clear. Vids uploading and processing now. Best to watch in order, A then B.

And another thing: Aaron is trying to move the goalposts. The COP>17 claim was that heat energy out in Joules was 17 times greater than electrical energy input in Joules. That is the claim; that is what I am testing. If the battery recharges itself that is really not my concern. I'm just measuring the flow at the millwheel, I don't care if the pond fills up or not.
If battery state of charge measurements become necessary, you can bet that I have access to the means to do them. Or will, once everything is unpacked from the relocation.

[TinselKoala]

I've seen it stated here and over there that a MOSFET gate works on voltage not current.
Well, that's mostly true, I think. The transistor junction operates on Charge.
Current is the movement of charge. Voltage is the ability of a current to overcome resistance. Everything (except superconductors of course) has resistance.
To switch a mosfet, you need to get sufficient Charge packed into the junction. Charges of like sign repel of course (that's what voltage is, really--the pressure of repelling negative charges) so the only way this can be accomplished is by providing an excess voltage, so that some charge can flow into the gate's capacitance. This isn't much by ordinary standards but it is a flow of current, and it takes a finite time. More time if the voltage is less. A higher gate capacitance means a slower switching mosfet at the same gate voltage.
Don't provide enough charge in there (not enough voltage to push some charge into the gate) and the mosfet will switch slowly or incompletely or not at all. Don't provide a path for the charge to flow back out (the pull-down resistor) and the mosfet may stay on like an SCR or may oscillate or leak.
So there is a bit of current at the gate. Has to be, to vary the charge and switch the mosfet.

[TinselKoala]

Tonight's feature, Part A:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkTuVlpl0iI

Part B uploading

[fuzzytomcat]

@ TK

Since the circuit we're testing is battery powered and not normally earthed (or is it? Another ambiguity)

Well I'm not sure now knowing what you do now on 240V utility power in Europe with the grounding as it is, and Rosemary makes the statement ........

Regarding the need for grounding, and at the risk of prolonging an argument regarding this - I have to see clear evidence of the earth attached to the neck of the probe attached to the meter and across the shunt.

I would assume any electronic device including measuring equipment except the Fluke was plugged in with a 240 volt 3-prong plug (hot-hot-earth) could there have been possibly another scope being used at the same time creating a "earth" (ground) loop connection , she can't remember I think she said .... so many posts now.

Fuzzy