Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[TinselKoala]

And you're sure you shorted where you should have shorted? Instead of shorted where you should have cut (opened)?

(Hey, if my comments are nonsense, just ignore me. As far as I'm concerned, those 'trons are mystical beings that do whatever they please anyway.)

Look at Rosemary's circuit. Opening those lines--well, I didn't try it, I tested my hardwired version and I didn't want to cut anything out---but I don't think opening those particular lines would have the desired effect. But OK, I'll try it.  Check back in an hour or two.

[henieck]

It makes no difference what a "supreme jury" does or does not report.

- because the skeptics get paid from the big oil companies

I have been observing information war in this field for some time and was always curious what is this fuss all about and who is right. Logically one side must have been heavily wrong. I was surprised to find uneducated guru with some blind followers, but most shocking to me was to experience how the guru operates psychologically. An anorectic can be literally dying of hunger, looking at herself in a mirror and being deeply convicted, that she is definitively too fat. This is phenomenal. Nothing helps, there is no argument nor evidence in such a situation which could change anything. Only professional therapy and pharmacology. Every incoming information, inconsistent with beliefs is just deleted, doesn’t even get processed. Rosemary is not in the worst stadium yet - but probably close. The same effect you can see in plastic surgery field (M. Jackson). No matter how razor blade-nose he had - it was still to big or to wide. It is well known phenomenon- and I am surprised to find it in work here (what was I thinking?) Actually I was more expecting liars in action - but on contrary - they are the most honest believers an fanatics. (perhaps not all).

You will be greatly amused by the Mylow saga, if you haven't already read it.

- in fact, that could be quite interesting to me. Can I find it on this forum somewhere?

But no matter what any Jury might say, I doubt if we'll be seeing any actual home heaters or actual battery chargers using this circuit. Ever.

- actually I have found yesterday, that it really works as promised
It is in a way an interesting/unconventional circuit to study - but there is no way it can generate any free E.

So I expect people to be trying to "replicate" Rosemary's reported results for years to come, no matter what any "jury" might say.

- yes, like gravity wheels which were busted in the mediaeval centuries already.

[TinselKoala]

And I have also just now been testing the circuit using the LeCroy 9370M digital sampling oscilloscope (1GHz bandwidth). This scope will do just about everything except butter the toast. It even has an internal thermal printer for screen dumps. 2-channel, 4-trace, more math functions than I know what to do with. This particular unit has "issues" with the #2 channel; it is queued up for repair which is why I was able to abscond briefly with it. But the #1 channel is fine and everything else is copacetic.
EXCEPT: the silly thing is even worse at resolving those really sharp spikes than my slow analog scopes. And yes, I have global BWL and local channel BWL off, and all that. Maybe the #1 has "issues" too, because I seem to remember this scope doing much better than that, and at 500 Megasamples/second you'd think you would be able to resolve some 2 Mhz spikes.
BUT: That's OK because it does integration, and (a constant) X (the integral of a function) is the same as the integral of ((a constant) X ( a function)).
If I remember my calculus. It's been a very long time.
So that means I can integrate the current trace over time, and if the battery voltage remains reasonably constant I can declare that it is constant, and multiply that times the integrated current trace, and still wind up with energy in Joules.
Can't I?

Anyway, I'll post a video showing off this fancy osk-kill-osk-o-pee later this evening.

(I still prefer analog scopes, especially for the kinds of work generally done around here. They are much easier to fix when they get zapped.)

[TinselKoala]

@Henieck, re Mylow.

Oh, where to start.
Here, I guess.
LRCan's backups of the original Mylow video postings on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/LRCan1

And
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?board=117.0
is the "catalog" of the remaining Mylow threads, and
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7162.0
I believe is the first thread, where it started, on this forum. There may have been one or two threads removed by the moderator, I can't recall exactly.

(EDIT to add: I just read back over some of those threads, and I am flabbergasted at the amount of removals of posts that have happened. Down the memory hole! I suggest that if you make posts that are particularly entertaining while at the same time critical, you save them off-forum, because things sometimes disappear around here, it seems.)

I think most of the interesting links are still in the threads, but be sure to check out the PESwiki site and search for Mylow:
http://peswiki.com/energy/News

And, of course, there are many YT videos concerning the subject. Here's my personal favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvpTXdWAd1M

[jibbguy]

Bringing up "Mylow" won't help the issue, lol. Mylow mylow mylow mylow mylow... See, it has no "ju-ju" power at all

(Gee what a waste of time that was then for ALL CONCERNED hehehe)

As for Steorn, i've never had a real opinion on it, as there are some excellent arguments on both sides. Utterly screwing-up an important electronic device Demo in front of Customers has been done thousands of times before in the "real" world (unfortunately i've seen it happen a couple extremely uncomfortable and sweaty times lol), so that incident didn't weigh too much with me. But i gotta say being behind 5 years for Release is a bit much even for all-new concepts (although some may be surprised to hear that missing the Release date some marketing moron arbitrarily sets by 1 to 2 years is actually more common than not in the electronics industry) .

If you guys were suggesting from your paraphrasing / quoting of the last part of my previous post that i am convinced the circuit works... Well read it again because you obviously missed the points there. We should wait and not blindly take any one person's opinion on it, either way.

TK might be right but that is not the point ... The point is that despite whatever great talents he may have, they are not all-encompassing (i've never met anyone who's are), nor does his obvious bias exude confidence in his objectivity This is not to suggest he is deliberately "tilting" results (which i don't think is the case), it is that his mindset in viewing it could be so pre-conceived as to cause him to miss something others' may not. That happens ALL THE TIME, even with professional top-notch EE's with many years' experience. I've seen that several times too: It is one of the worst dangers we all face in many endeavors, imo.

But should he indeed be proved wrong in the end, i would not crow, or even rejoice (about that specifically, anyway). Because, professionally, i've been there. And learned not to invest too heavily with only my own opinions and results to go on; as these things have myriads of possible unforeseen factors that WILL bite you in the ass, eventually... Even if you are the "Clint Eastwood" of electronic circuit building . It's as simple as that.

In business we would not take any one person's word on whether or not to go with an all-new technology... Especially when there is any controversy at all attached to it, and even more so if a lot of R&D money and the company's future market share were riding on it. It would go before a Review of several Engineers, including some off-site independent consultants as well, so all possible factors would have a much better chance of being caught... Before any real decisions were made. That's how it is done.

But we can pretty much assume that while we are waiting a few weeks for more results, that the world won't suddenly be "fooled" into accepting the concepts of Free Energy... So none of the skeptics here need lose any sleep in the mean time