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Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

Started by TinselKoala, June 16, 2009, 09:52:52 PM

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WilbyInebriated

Quote from: utilitarian on November 16, 2009, 02:18:57 PM
Those people do not care about trying to falsify their claims, which every good scientist should try to do prior to asserting something as world-shaking as "hey there is extra energy here coming from NOTHING!!!!". 
i don't think anyone on the 'ainslie team' has said anything of the sort. are you making stuff up again or can you back this up with some evidence?

Quote from: utilitarian on November 16, 2009, 02:18:57 PM
You will never demonstrate anything to their satisfaction, as they can always point to something or other and claim your tests are deficient.
to be fair, this applies to both sides.

Quote from: utilitarian on November 16, 2009, 02:18:57 PM
I agree, just walk away.  The burden is on the inventor to demonstrate overunity, so let her and her team do that.
that is precisely what they have been trying to do, inspite of all the 'objections' from the peanut gallery and yourself. why don't you shut up and let them? i know it's so hard for you all when it's a slow week in the ltseung thread, the latest magnet motor or TPU thread... put your money where your mouth is and do what you suggested.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

utilitarian

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on November 16, 2009, 02:37:11 PM
i don't think anyone on the 'ainslie team' has said anything of the sort. are you making stuff up again or can you back this up with some evidence?
to be fair, this applies to both sides.
that is precisely what they have been trying to do, inspite of all the 'objections' from the peanut gallery and yourself. why don't you shut up and let them? i know it's so hard for you all when it's a slow week in the ltseung thread, the latest magnet motor or TPU thread... put your money where your mouth is and do what you suggested.

In response to your first point, there is a claim of "a breach of unity," i.e. overunity, which means energy from nothing and is in contradiction with the known laws of physics.

With regard to your last point, I have barely said anything in this thread, so I do not see how my few words have stood in the way of anyone proving anything.  And if they have been trying so hard, where is the peer review? If you know of any that is reputable,  please share.

And lastly, I am curious, do you actually hold an opinion here?  Do you believe the Ainslie circuit breaches unity as claimed?

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: utilitarian on November 16, 2009, 03:35:27 PM
In response to your first point, there is a claim of "a breach of unity," i.e. overunity, which means energy from nothing and is in contradiction with the known laws of physics.

With regard to your last point, I have barely said anything in this thread, so I do not see how my few words have stood in the way of anyone proving anything.  And if they have been trying so hard, where is the peer review? If you know of any that is reputable,  please share.

And lastly, I am curious, do you actually hold an opinion here?  Do you believe the Ainslie circuit breaches unity as claimed?
that is simply your definition, one cherrypicked to suit your argument. there are other definitions...
so you have no evidence, nothing but hyperbole...  imagine that. furthermore, if i recall the claim from ainslie is one of COP not OU... but i am willing to be corrected, with evidence and not your opinion...

my opinion, just like yours, is irrelevant.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

Hoppy

Quote from: poynt99 on November 16, 2009, 02:24:33 PM
Indeed, it's time to heed the advice from all my close associates here and go for that walk. I've done about all I can do here (and more) to bring the crucial aspects to this whole exercise to light.

Perhaps I'll see you all again some time down the road.

.99

Well done Poynt. Join the enlightened and just sit back and watch Fuzzy and Harvey role out documented proof of OU for Rosemary. No need to do any more.

Hoppy


utilitarian

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on November 16, 2009, 03:40:02 PM
that is simply your definition, one cherrypicked to suit your argument. there are other definitions...
so you have no evidence, nothing but hyperbole...  imagine that. furthermore, if i recall the claim from ainslie is one of COP not OU... but i am willing to be corrected, with evidence and not your opinion...

my opinion, just like yours, is irrelevant.

I am getting the breach of unity claim directly from Rosemary's energetic forum postings.  Breach of unity is technically a different claim from COP.  Whether a COP claim has been made or not, I am not sure.  I am referring to the overunity claim, which is an efficiency claim.  If you have a different definition of overunity, let's have it.  I am going by the most commonly accepted definition here, meaning (total useful energy output) / (total energy input from all sources).  Do you disagree with this definition, or do you disagree that a claim as to overunity, as I have defined it, has been made?  I am sure Ms. Ainslie herself can clear this up, in any case.

And I do not see how you can say that your opinion regarding the very central question of this thread is irrelevant.  You just do not want to admit that you don't believe in the overunity of the circuit either.  Or maybe you do believe it, but cannot articulate why.  Either way, the opinion is relevant, assuming it rests on facts presented.