Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[jibbguy]

"Heat" isn't useful? Lol even down here in South Florida i wish i had an "Ainslie Heater" device lately; it has been brutally cold the last two weeks by our usual standards. 

We admit there are no whirring lights, no spinning magnets here... And the "Entertainment Value" of it is kinda like the difference between watching an adventure TV show, and reading a fairly dull book, lol. But dull books can have some very important information in them. 

The circuit is specifically balanced for a specific result; which it provides. A CFL or incandescent would not provide the same effect as the hand-made heating element with specifically-wound resistive wire does (although the work of ~Imhotep~ and others have shown that there can be somewhat similar effects with CFL's). We could certainly add a light in series, but all that would do is run the battery down faster, it would have to be subtracted from the total to get back to true figures, so it hardly seems worthwhile just for show. If we removed the heating element the "effect" and efficiencies would be gone too... As seen by Fuzzy's great work and by others with trying different loads.

But there are literally thousands of possible things to try yet; different materials, circuit components, frequency ranges, etc.  That's why we are hoping universities takes this work on, so it CAN be tested and verified in the mainstream, and all those different things tried... So someday soon someone can go buy an "Ainslie Heater" at Kmart

All are invited to invent new applications for it (that's the Open Source way after all!), and this will be an important aspect for the future of its development.

[Rosemary Ainslie]

"Heat" isn't useful? Lol even down here in South Florida i wish i had an "Ainslie Heater" device lately; it has been brutally cold the last two weeks by our usual standards. 

We admit there are no whirring lights, no spinning magnets here... And the "Entertainment Value" of it is kinda like the difference between watching an adventure TV show, and reading a fairly dull book, lol. But dull books can have some very important information in them. 

The circuit is specifically balanced for a specific result; which it provides. A CFL or incandescent would not provide the same effect as the hand-made heating element with specifically-wound resistive wire does (although the work of ~Imhotep~ and others have shown that there can be somewhat similar effects with CFL's). We could certainly add a light in series, but all that would do is run the battery down faster, it would have to be subtracted from the total to get back to true figures, so it hardly seems worthwhile just for show. If we removed the heating element the "effect" and efficiencies would be gone too... As seen by Fuzzy's great work and by others with trying different loads.

But there are literally thousands of possible things to try yet; different materials, circuit components, frequency ranges, etc.  That's why we are hoping universities takes this work on, so it CAN be tested and verified in the mainstream, and all those different things tried... So someday soon someone can go buy an "Ainslie Heater" at Kmart

All are invited to invent new applications for it (that's the Open Source way after all!), and this will be an important aspect for the future of its development.

Really well said Jibbs.  Needed a second posting here.  LOL.

[Ken the Great]

Creating heat is not useful work. No matter how many people want to join you.

How many products do we have in our society that create heat? Everything electrical creates heat. This heat has nothing to do with useful work.

If you want to use a heating element to heat water, then that would be useful work. I suggested a light because of the ease one can visually see the results. So hook up the heating element and do some useful work.
Until you do saying "heat isn't useful" is not worth addressing.

I will wait for the results of the heating element experiment.

I have seen so many devices that seem to create more energy than they use, with measuring the inputs and outputs, that are not what they seem to be. This to me is just another one.

I hope it works. I personally need more than measurements to be convinced.

I would rather see this be real than be a measurement fluke.
Too many times the results of poor measuring tools and techniques are the problem. A simple phase shift has caused many to proclaim something that was not true.

Remove the battery and make the system closed loop, THEN heat some water. That would convince me immediately.

Any credible experiment that shows work being done, not by merely measuring the inputs/outputs.

Have Fun   


"Don't feel bad because others do not feel obligated to believe what you believe, simply prove it, or go back to church alone."

[jibbguy]

Generating heat is certainly doing "work".

For one thing, without boilers there would be no power grid to begin with (unless you happened to live within an area served by Hydroelectric dams). That is the "work" that allows for a modern society.

Heated gas expansion is what is behind Diesel and ICE . Heat is what creates wind. Photons generate heat when they collide with matter; heat is what allows life to exist in the first place.

Heat is the ultimate "work".

Concerns and veiled accusations of "poor measurement" could possibly have some weight, if they were specific: They are not. If one is interested in detracting from the work done here, perhaps they should take the time to do more than make vague, unsubstantiated negative comments with no real meaning.

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Creating heat is not useful work. No matter how many people want to join you.

Golly Ken the Great.  There's heating of homes, heating of heaters, heating of water.  Which example does not create useful work?

How many products do we have in our society that create heat? Everything electrical creates heat. This heat has nothing to do with useful work.

Again.  This statement is just so profoundly wrong as to be laughable.  On average more than 90% of the average household utility bill goes into heating things.

If you want to use a heating element to heat water, then that would be useful work. I suggested a light because of the ease one can visually see the results. So hook up the heating element and do some useful work.

At last.  Yes we do that.  We use a resistive element to heat water, oil, air, name it.  All you need to do, thanks to Fuzzy's hard work here, is scale up the element and apply it to an average household hot water cylinder.   

Until you do saying "heat isn't useful" is not worth addressing.

Not quite sure of your point here. 

I will wait for the results of the heating element experiment.

No need to wait.  The results are out there.  You need to check out the link that I'll add when I've finished this post.

I have seen so many devices that seem to create more energy than they use, with measuring the inputs and outputs, that are not what they seem to be. This to me is just another one.

I sincerely hope not.  This experiment is itself a replication of a published claim.  I think the benefits here have been unequivocally proven.  All that remains is to publish the paper.  And as Jibbguy has mentioned, that's the hard part.  But it won't be from lack of trying if this is never done.

I hope it works. I personally need more than measurements to be convinced.

We have so many measurements that if we printed them out on A4 size paper font size 12, they would fill tomes of books more than 6 feet high. Surely that's enough?

I would rather see this be real than be a measurement fluke. Too many times the results of poor measuring tools and techniques are the problem. A simple phase shift has caused many to proclaim something that was not true.

It's difficult to call something a fluke when it's been measured to the stringent standards applied and described in our paper and that when it's shown, over and over and over again with the repetition of sunrise at the equator.  No fluke here.   

Remove the battery and make the system closed loop, THEN heat some water. That would convince me immediately.

We're not that anxious to convince you - not that it wouldn't be fun.  But the evidence is there if you want to check it out.  We're more anxious that you design those heaters and scale it up and make use of it.  That's the object of these tests. 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23455916/Open-Source-Evaluation-of-Power-Transients-Generated-to-Improve-Performance-Coefficient-of-Resistive-Heating-Systems