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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Quote from: Zeitmaschine on February 20, 2013, 02:00:01 PM

Then we should think about this as if we are living between huge charged capacitor plates. Now imagine there is a charged capacitor, one huge plate is to the left of your table and one huge plate is to the right of your table. Which experiment on this table could be suitable to tap into the electric field of this inexhaustible capacitor without touching the plates?

Great philosophical discussions today ... :P
u can touch one plate, cant u?
i think ionosphere is one plate and ground is second plate? or not?
soz for english.

jbignes5

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on February 20, 2013, 08:00:02 PM
It should be simplified in a way so that a carpenter can come across it by chance while connecting his workshop equipped with disk saws to the grid.
Is there any tangible outcome after all these dozens of pages? If not then obviously something important has been missed here. What could that be?

Maybe that in a parametric (amplification) circuit there should be an entry point for the ambient (radiant) energy in order to excite the oscillations successfully? Just like an audio amplifier which needs a signal on its input in order to amplify.
I think I do know now the major error in all these differential equations: All these equations are only valid in a closed system. If we measure a circuit then normally we shield it even from the environment in order to get unadulterated results in accordance with the equations written in the textbooks. So if we want energy from the environment then shielding the circuit from it is not the brightest idea. But a differential equation which describes the function of a LC circuit cannot incorporate any perturbations coming from the environment because the specifics of these perturbations are generally unknown. That means we do not know whether the coils recharges the capacitor to -141.4% of the original voltage or to a different value if there is an entry point for radiant energy not considered by these differential equations.

So much for that philosophy. :)


Well like I said shielding it is to keep the strength and character of the radiant energy pristine. Where you let it be exposed to matter it then converts into real power. Radiant energy when exposed to certain forms of matter also change the character of that conversion as well. All I know is if we expose segmented copper to the field it goes into super current mode. When copper gets energized in this electric field it polarizes and creates a super flow of real current within the coppers structure. Coils define a diode like direction where it resists movement in one direction only. Ie the coils natural ability to fight changes in direction.


In a bifilar coil This action is amplified and it seems the energy doesn't change in the character but only the amplitude of the excitation. You could think of it as an accelerator of conventional current.


As Tesla found out with highly charged atoms you can extract huge amounts of real energy if the bifilar coil is used to create a diode like action in the coil. This is also the same premise he used in his liquid valvular diode. I think this item also worked with air and gases. Don't quote me on that one. I seem to remember him working through the concept of diode like action. If Tesla and others would not see this effect then we are trying in vain to find this flow. But they did find ts effect. Tesla found the perfect engine that uses a non compressible fluid (aether or ether), well it doesn't like to be compressed and he could pressurize it much like water. It changes density as it goes through it's pressures and it has an inverted temperature coefficient.


So as I tried to mention before Tesla created the perfect engine using the electric field. He then devised a way to polarize the flow of that engine and make it harvestable vi matter interaction. You only expose this stuff to matter when you want a reaction from that matter. The bifilar coil is such a diode like device. But not only do you get rectification you get an acceleration of the input which increases the energy associated with the target matter.


All of these components are very very important.


Hoppy

Quote from: jbignes5 on February 21, 2013, 08:45:14 AM

Well like I said shielding it is to keep the strength and character of the radiant energy pristine.

Where you let it be exposed to matter it then converts into real power.

Radiant energy when exposed to certain forms of matter also change the character of that conversion as well.

All I know is if we expose segmented copper to the field it goes into super current mode.

When copper gets energized in this electric field it polarizes and creates a super flow of real current within the coppers structure.

Coils define a diode like direction where it resists movement in one direction only. Ie the coils natural ability to fight changes in direction.

In a bifilar coil This action is amplified and it seems the energy doesn't change in the character but only the amplitude of the excitation. You could think of it as an accelerator of conventional current.

As Tesla found out with highly charged atoms you can extract huge amounts of real energy if the bifilar coil is used to create a diode like action in the coil. This is also the same premise he used in his liquid valvular diode. I think this item also worked with air and gases. Don't quote me on that one.

I seem to remember him working through the concept of diode like action.

Tesla found the perfect engine that uses a non compressible fluid (aether or ether), well it doesn't like to be compressed and he could pressurize it much like water. It changes density as it goes through it's pressures and it has an inverted temperature coefficient.

So as I tried to mention before Tesla created the perfect engine using the electric field. He then devised a way to polarize the flow of that engine and make it harvestable vi matter interaction.

You only expose this stuff to matter when you want a reaction from that matter.

The bifilar coil is such a diode like device. But not only do you get rectification you get an acceleration of the input which increases the energy associated with the target matter.

All of these components are very very important.

Based on your long list of 'facts' about radiant energy above, please get to the point and tell us how TK's devices work using radiant energy without constantly waffling on about 'Tesla did this' and 'Tesla did that'!  :(

Zeitmaschine

Even if it sucks ;D ... but I have to quote wikipedia once again:

»Remarkably, if the parameters vary at roughly twice the natural frequency of the oscillator (defined below), the oscillator phase-locks to the parametric variation and absorbs energy at a rate proportional to the energy it already has. Without a compensating energy-loss mechanism provided by beta, the oscillation amplitude grows exponentially.«

The dictionary says: to absorb is equal to soak up, suck up, sponge up. To me that definition means not the source of the energy pushes the energy into the system (like a battery) but the system itself -the parametric oscillator- pulls (sucks, soaks) the energy out of the source. Since our source here is the environment and the environment normally does not push anything in any system, a device that soaks up the energy by itself should be exactly that what we are looking for.

So where does the energy (to be sucked up) enter the parametric oscillatory system in case of Kapanadze, Stepanov and Marks?

The Kapanadze device is connected directly to the ground (soaking 24 amperes). The Stepanov device is connected to a large metallic object, the battery, acting as capacitor plate (soaking 8 amperes). The Marks device is obviously connected to nothing visible. But there is a major difference here: The Marks device operates at a frequency of 6KHz versus 50Hz of the Kapanadze and Stepanov devices. Typically a higher frequency means that all the electronic parts can be kept smaller. So the entry point for the energy can be kept smaller too and therefore it could easily be hidden within the device. The same is true about the yellow suitcase of Dr. Schwartz which has clearly visible a metallic plate in its cover.

Therefore the task would be: How to build a parametric oscillator that works? >:(

And of course the question, which Tesla patent could represent a parametric oscillator? :)

DreamThinkBuild

Hi Zeitmaschine,

Your ideas sparked this thought on parametric coil and cap design. If we pulse the coil it will either push or pull the thin magnet in the center causing the center piece to oscillate. This changes the distance of the plates while also expanding and contracting the coil through the magnetic field. So we have two different parametric changes going on at once. It's an untested thought so who knows what might happen. :)