Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[Zeitmaschine]

I need more info to answer that, e.g.:
Are the two mutually-coupled coils "charged" sequentially or simultaneously? 
Is the bifilar winding wound in bucking mode or aiding mode (BTW: this detail should always be specified when using the phrase "bifilar winding") ? 
Does the saturation refer to a soft ferromagnetic core or a hard ferromagnetic core (hard ones exhibit high magnetic remanance after the magnetizing H field is removed) ?

All of it. So we can't miss any possibility to get a surplus of electric energy from somewhere.

These equations are based on centuries of empirical observations, such as voltage measured across inductors when the magnetic field inside them changes or the current that flows in a capacitance/resistance in response to voltage.
To invalidate those equations one of the effects observed by Ampere, Faraday, Lenz, Lorentz, Biot-Savart, Maxwell, Ohm would have to be proved to be wrong or incomplete or nonexistent.  The former two are still possible but require extraordinary experimental proof.

Are the devices of Kapanadze, Stepanov and Marks really not the extraordinary experimental proof? Because to my knowledge not a single observer of these experiments has come forward yet with any solid proof that even one of these experiments is fake.

The second argument that Kapanadze's or Stepanov devices work contrary to these equations is a weak one.  First of all we cannot be sure that they work at all.  Secondly we do not know their operating principle - for example Ampere, Faraday, Lenz, Lorentz, Biot-Savart, Maxwell, Ohm laws might be simply not applicable to their operational principle and the equations, that embody those effects, likewise might not be applicable.

If the laws of Ampere, Faraday, Lenz, Lorentz, Biot-Savart, Maxwell, Ohm are not applicable to the Kapanadze, Stepanov or Marks devices but only to ordinary electric circuits consisting of capacitors, coils and resistors then -as a logical consequence- the Kapanadze, Stepanov or Marks devices cannot be built out of ordinary electric parts. And this then makes the whole subject anything but clearer. Hence what to believe?

By the same token, it is entirely possible that entirely different types of electricity exist (e.g. uncharged electrons, cold electricity,  birotating electrons - Cooper pairs, electron triplets in counterspace) and that these different types do not obey the laws of conventional electricity.

OK, then how do I know for sure that this entirely different type of electricity will not manifest itself in an experiment contrary to all known differential equations because these equations are only valid for conventional electricity? In other words: Even a different type of electricity would need conventional electric parts to manifest itself because we (also most likely Kapanadze, Stepanov and Marks) don't have any unconventional electric parts (whatever that might be).

Lets think about this in a different way. What do you think a body in space is? A capacitance? Each planet in a solar system is one terminal of a capacitor.

Then we should think about this as if we are living between huge charged capacitor plates. Now imagine there is a charged capacitor, one huge plate is to the left of your table and one huge plate is to the right of your table. Which experiment on this table could be suitable to tap into the electric field of this inexhaustible capacitor without touching the plates?

Great philosophical discussions today ...

[mrstanlez]

Hi to All researchers,

I think, that we - people live on between two big plates of the capacitor, but one (earth) is with dielectrics layer, and other with paramagnetics layer coated.  Plus between horizontal and/or vertical layers of the air, are different anisotropy.

And here below are my latest theory about Kapanadzes device + Tesla patents simplified.

Best regards
Stanley

[a.king21]

TK uses radiant energy. I suggest you look it up and formulate new laws of physics to explain it.
Moray used radiant energy.
Bedini uses radiant energy.
Tesla used radiant energy.
Stubblefield used radiant energy.
Some common denominators: RE is cold, also known as cold electricity.
Use batteries or capacitors to convert cold electricity to "normal" electricity.
Capacitors and batteries need conditioning to operate under radiant energy conditions.
Once conditioned, capacitors super charge.
How do I know? I've done the experiments and talked to TK.

[Zeitmaschine]

And here below are my latest theory about Kapanadzes device + Tesla patents simplified.

It should be simplified in a way so that a carpenter can come across it by chance while connecting his workshop equipped with disk saws to the grid.

The thread about this machine is here, it's another version of parametric variation...
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/1631-peter-whatever-happened-eric-p-dollard.html#post73799
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5811-parametric-excitation.html#post97489
If you are so really interested in Parametrics you should read those topic and Eric Dollard work, it's like a Bible, it worth the time.

Is there any tangible outcome after all these dozens of pages? If not then obviously something important has been missed here. What could that be?

Maybe that in a parametric (amplification) circuit there should be an entry point for the ambient (radiant) energy in order to excite the oscillations successfully? Just like an audio amplifier which needs a signal on its input in order to amplify.

When you go through the instantaneous differential equations, that energy stored in the two series-connected coils recharges the capacitor to -141.4% of the original voltage, not to -200% of the original voltage

I think I do know now the major error in all these differential equations: All these equations are only valid in a closed system. If we measure a circuit then normally we shield it even from the environment in order to get unadulterated results in accordance with the equations written in the textbooks. So if we want energy from the environment then shielding the circuit from it is not the brightest idea. But a differential equation which describes the function of a LC circuit cannot incorporate any perturbations coming from the environment because the specifics of these perturbations are generally unknown. That means we do not know whether the coils recharges the capacitor to -141.4% of the original voltage or to a different value if there is an entry point for radiant energy not considered by these differential equations.

So much for that philosophy.

[Hoppy]

I think I do know now the major error in all these differential equations: All these equations are only valid in a closed system. If we measure a circuit then normally we shield it even from the environment in order to get unadulterated results in accordance with the equations written in the textbooks. So if we want energy from the environment then shielding the circuit from it is not the brightest idea. But a differential equation which describes the function of a LC circuit cannot incorporate any perturbations coming from the environment because the specifics of these perturbations are generally unknown. That means we do not know whether the coils recharges the capacitor to -141.4% of the original voltage or to a different value if there is an entry point for radiant energy not considered by these differential equations.

So much for that philosophy.

You could be correct because we are told by Bedini that radiant energy cannot be measured by conventional EE measuring apparatus, so without a new non EE measuring apparatus being developed, its not possible to prove whether radiant energy enters a system. Bedini only believes from his theories that 'cold' radiant is sucked-into a system from the environment and converted into 'hot' energy in capacitors and batteries as he has no method of proving this experimentally. He claims that repeated load testing of a battery charged / conditioned by his energiser system will show the gain but this claim is hotly contested on the grounds that the process of desulfation by HV 'spikes' simply causes an increase in battery capacity through plate cleansing.

As for your comment about no solid proof that TK's devices are faked, there is at least some video evidence that strongly suggests the 'green box' device was faked, so given that a.King21 is still posting occasionally on this thread, I would yet again remind him that we need to see a good quality (original) video of the aqua2 device from his team.