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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Zeitmaschine

Quote from: jbignes5 on March 10, 2013, 06:59:03 PM
This all relates back to the container under water example that Tesla proposed. And it is exactly how TK is getting the results he is getting.
I have seen yet not one single drawing of a (so called) Kapanadze circuit mentioning the word »shielding«. This is very odd in the light of Tesla's statement: »[...] and that, by some means or other, in this enclosure a medium were maintained which would have little energy, and that on the outer side of the same there would be the ordinary ambient medium with much energy.« (The Problem of Increasing Human Energy) Now replace the term »enclosure« with »shielding« and the term »medium« with »earth's electric field«. Then the enclosure would be a Faraday cage with no electric field inside (little energy) but with an ordinary electric field outside (much energy).

So when in the Faraday cage the electric field is zero then how much is (or should be) the electric field outside? Actually it doesn't matter as long as it is non-zero and thereby inexhaustible. In theory, if there were a 1.5V battery which would be inexhaustible (maintaining 1.5V under all circumstances) then the whole world could be powered with that battery.

And practically that means, all Kapanadze diagrams not comprising a (grounded) Faraday cage are either incomplete or just plain wrong (including the TK patents).

Quote from: guruji on March 11, 2013, 08:24:33 AM
Interesting thing in TKvid that they used salt water for the earthed radiator and in one of his comments he says that the generator will work without earthing including a small circuit.
Tesla's car worked without it. Although a grounded Faraday cage should be more efficient.

»If the cage is grounded, the excess charges will go to the ground instead of the outer face, so the inner face and the inner charge will cancel each other out and the rest of the cage will retain a neutral charge.«

There we have it: Our most wanted ground current. :)

jbignes5

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on March 11, 2013, 08:45:24 AM
I have seen yet not one single drawing of a (so called) Kapanadze circuit mentioning the word »shielding«. This is very odd in the light of Tesla's statement: »[...] and that, by some means or other, in this enclosure a medium were maintained which would have little energy, and that on the outer side of the same there would be the ordinary ambient medium with much energy.« (The Problem of Increasing Human Energy) Now replace the term »enclosure« with »shielding« and the term »medium« with »earth's electric field«. Then the enclosure would be a Faraday cage with no electric field inside (little energy) but with an ordinary electric field outside (much energy).

So when in the Faraday cage the electric field is zero then how much is (or should be) the electric field outside? Actually it doesn't matter as long as it is non-zero and thereby inexhaustible. In theory, if there were a 1.5V battery which would be inexhaustible (maintaining 1.5V under all circumstances) then the whole world could be powered with that battery.

And practically that means, all Kapanadze diagrams not comprising a (grounded) Faraday cage are either incomplete or just plain wrong (including the TK patents).
Tesla's car worked without it. Although a grounded Faraday cage should be more efficient.

»If the cage is grounded, the excess charges will go to the ground instead of the outer face, so the inner face and the inner charge will cancel each other out and the rest of the cage will retain a neutral charge.«

There we have it: Our most wanted ground current. :)


Well any closed metal container is a faraday cage. In the case of the Tesla roadster the box or the car could be considered a faraday cage. The cage or sink is just a means of creating a vacuum. You are right about the electric field of the earth. This could be considered a pressure and the shielded space is the vacuum. In no way can the charge from the inner space of the container get to the outer space, the static rules forbid it and in practice this is exactly what happens. The problem is how do we collect the charges from the cage and use them in our devices. Obviously there is a way to do this. Maybe TK used the Leyden jar concept to secure the vacuum and still have access to the charges that get sucked into the cage? There is still a lot of stuff we don't know for sure about this method.


Yes TK's patents are not full, they only develop the concept and not the actual setup. This is the way of many many inventors to not let the secret out and still secure rights to the idea.


In the case of the roadster of Tesla, there seems to be a way to collect even more free charges from the air  via an air interface (antennas) and if he used a Leyden jar as the vacuum then he didn't need to use the earth ground but this limits the amount of vacuum that can suck the charges into the system.


Only experimentation will find out these techniques. That's my aim when I start my lab.


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   I did acquire some un expected results once hitting an iron wire with 30,000 kv from a flyback.  The iron wire was rusty.  What may be explained as an ion wind insued between ground and the pulsed iron coil.  Some coronal effects were being issued from either end of the coil and appeared to be in some sort of relationship as the brushes bent towards each other.  Anyway the wind was cold.  You could cup your hand and bottle the cold and feel it pouring out around the edges of my palm. .    Perhaps the intense electric field inhibits molecular vibrations.  The field surrounding this sees this as a no-energy zone and radiates inward toward it so as to comply with the laws of entrophy. Another shielding experiment was with placing a piece of magnet wire in a microwave and a drop of water.   The microwave lit up like a quartz halogen bulb as long as you had a drop of water near the piece of wire stuck in some cork.  Once the end of the wire started to heat and burn off the enamel coating the whole deal shut down.  It would not work at all with a paper clip or uninsulated wire.
   
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a.king21

Well, cold electricity is one of the big clues that you are generating radiant energy. The single most unobserved clue about the aquarium 2 is that the box was inert. No heat, no cold; so TK has balanced the cold electricity of radiant energy with the heat from some of his electrical components. TK also uses extensive shielding on ONE HALF of his circuitry. He also mentions Melnychenko. Well, we all thought he was referring to Melnychenko's transformers. I am beginning to see something else. Melnychenko has a patent in which he claims that transmitted energy picks up additional energy in transit. He postulates a magnatron type of device with an internal transmitter/receiver circuit. Maybe the coil/foil capacitors in aquarium 1 are aerial receivers. This is beginning to relate to the joule ringer crossover circuit with Kapanadze like effects.
And yes, inventors try to protect their secrets. Kapanadze told me as much. He said he was going to tell the Turks the secret then became suspicious of their motives. He was shocked when I told him that he had no patent rights but that the nominee had cheated him. The Turks did cheat him after all. So his gut reaction was the right one in that case.
I had to explain to him that there are many cases of inventors being named on patents who have no rights to the product. i.e. when inventors work for a large corporation such as Google or Apple, this is the norm.

jbignes5

Quote from: a.king21 on March 11, 2013, 04:20:40 PM
Well, cold electricity is one of the big clues that you are generating radiant energy. The single most unobserved clue about the aquarium 2 is that the box was inert. No heat, no cold; so TK has balanced the cold electricity of radiant energy with the heat from some of his electrical components. TK also uses extensive shielding on ONE HALF of his circuitry. He also mentions Melychenko. Well, we all thought he was referring to Melnychenko's transformers. I am beginning to see something else. Melnychenko has a patent in which he claims that transmitted energy picks up additional energy in transit. He postulates a magnatron type of device with an internal transmitter/receiver circuit. Maybe the coil/foil capacitors in aquarium 1 are aerial receivers. This is beginning to relate to the joule ringer crossover circuit with Kapanadze like effects.
And yes, inventers try to protect their secrets. Kapanadze told me as much. He said he was going to tell the Turks the secret then became suspicious of their motives. He was shocked when I told him that he had no patent rights but that the nominee had cheated him. The Turks did cheat him after all. So his gut reaction was the right one in that case.
I had to explain to him that there are many cases of inventors being named on patents who have no rights to the product. i.e. when inventors work for a large corporation such as Google or Apple, this is the norm.


Well you are absolutely right about cold electricity. It wants to balance with the surrounding charges we call heat and suck them up in transit. This is the reason for Tesla's use of an antenna on the back of the. Car and two smaller antennas on the box. The theory is that pure voltage sets up a pathway that charges get sucked into and fulfill the balancing nature of the natural network. These charges are in the form of heat and are all around us. Once on the pathway they can be condensed into a static chamber and turned into a magnetic field which can induce a great amount of current in a secondary. In Tesla's case this chamber was in the motor itself which needed a fan to be mounted on the front of the motor to cool it from all the heat he was extracting from the electric stream between the 3 antennas.


Somehow TK is doing the same without the motor, which is unusual but not impossible.