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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Quote from: Zeitmaschine on May 09, 2014, 03:00:53 PM
Even then it contradicts the textbooks. The textbooks saying an electric circuit must be closed otherwise no current can flow. But here a current flows clearly without a closed circuit.

Shorting the transformer's HV coil through a 10MOhm (!) resistor draws immediately around 60mA of additional current from the battery.

Now an interesting thing happens when the HV coil is shorted via that 10MOhm resistor and the spark fires to ground at the same time: The measured DC current goes down. Not much, just a few mA. But I think this is proof that the ground spark adds energy to the circuit, not drawing energy from it.

And that shorting reminds me somehow of the Barbosa patent which says something about a shorted coil connected to ground in order to capture the electrons.

Thus instead of doing a lot of measurements -which can be correct or not- wouldn't it be simpler trying to get more additional energy from the environment so that the circuit can self-run?
So Very Thanks for these additional data :p

Yes, indeed, I am agree with your conclusions now, dear Zeit :)

Looks it should be the phenomenon you've conjectured few posts ago on May 9 04:30:04:

"When the one side of the spark gap (during each 50Hz cycle) is positive (lack of electrons) then it attracts electrons from ground electrostatically on the other side. But because of the spark gap there is a spark which dissipates that energy instantaneously."

If it is so, we should be able to maximised the phenomenon and produce a usable power :) :) :)

You know what? This time I think I will start to experiment! While this is the simplest and logical conjecture/explanation I've ever found for that kind of apparatus, to get effective, real overunity :)

"So simple that you would laught", one have said*? ;)

Very Thanks for your Patience for taking time to share and explain your own viewpoint.

Nice to have you guys around to look For The Greatest Intetest of Al Of Us!

Best regards.

*: "saying" is not demonstrating nor explaining precisely like you've done well indeed dear Zeit :)

NickZ

    Hoppy:
    You're pointing to what exactly, the inverter connections? Are you questioning the white insulation material, or just ... what?
   Again, it would seam like this guy went through a lot of trouble and expense for this to be just another fake.  In any case,  time will tell.

   The small inverter may be a critical part of how to make this all work as shown.
It also looks like a smaller inverter unit, than the one that Akula used.
As you have an inverter and the Mazilli circuit (if still intact), you may want to try something like this yourself. You never know, might be more fun and rewarding than just looking for X wires. Of course, each to his own.
   

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: a.king21 on May 10, 2014, 12:12:05 AM
Zeit: I bet your device stops working if you put a diode into or out of the ground.

Every transformer stops working when a diode is put in series with one of its coils. But maybe two switchable diodes (thyristors) would do it.

Quote from: NickZ on May 09, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
Can you explain how you think that through a spark gap discharge that is going from a higher voltage source to the ground (lower voltage potential) be "drawing electrons" from the lower potential ground source?

I think Tesla called the electrons not electrons but rather aether. On the other hand the term 'electron' is more descriptive. And further I think the electron itself is a source of energy (the aether is a source of energy).

What happens to the electrons in the HV coil of the transformer when that coil is not connected to anything? The magnetic field in the iron core moves them either to one end or to the other end of the coil's wire (with a frequency of 50Hz). Means, there is a lack of electrons on one side and a surplus of electrons on the other side (constantly changing). Hence the end of the wire that has a lack of electrons attracts electrons (a spark occurs) from a metallic object nearby (not necessarily the ground).

At this point there are a lot more electrons in that wire than normally. Thus those additional electrons have to go somewhere. So they have to go back to the ground, otherwise there would be no measurable AC current in the ground wire. The question here is, when do these surplus electrons in the wire go back to the ground? The same time the electrons attracting spark occurs? Or during the next half-cycle of the 50Hz frequency when the lack of electrons has move to the other end of the wire?

Basically a spark gap acts as a fast bidirectional switch. This is also true for two back-to-back connected thyristors. So can we replace the unsteady spark gap with two controllable (resonating) thyristors? If yes, then what's the purpose of that ground switching at all (obviously there is no current without switching)? Is it perhaps to capture the electrons (to trap them in the device) for the duration of one half-cycle of the 50Hz frequency? And then to do something useful with these trapped electrons? Maybe by means of a LC circuit (consisting of an additional capacitor and a coil)?

Thus our ingredients are so far: A high voltage transformer, a coil, a capacitor, a pair of thyristors, an antenna and a metallic object (or ground).

Quote from: NickZ on May 09, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
The main thing is to have the circuit self run, regardless of where the extra energy may be coming from. Then we can discuss the how and why this can happen.

I would prefer first to discuss and to know where to look for that extra energy. When we know the source of that energy it should be much simpler to build a device in order to make use of that extra energy.

Tesla: »Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic? If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic - and this we know it is, for certain - then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature.«

What does kinetic energy mean? A water wheel will not rotate without flowing water. Kinetic energy means the energy in the ambient medium is also flowing like the water in a river. Thus we have to attach our device to that flowing (kinetic) energy.

Tesla's electric car: »At a local radio shop he bought 12 vacuum tubes, some wires and assorted resistors, and assembled them in a circuit box 24 inches long, 12 inches wide and 6 inches high, with a pair of 3-inch rods sticking out.«

Supposed one has no thyristors (rated at 1000V) at hand (because they are not invented yet), what would be a substitute? Perhaps a pair of ordinary radio tubes, each pair consisting of 6 tubes in series, so they can stand the high voltage? If one radio tube's anode voltage is rated at 200 to 300V then 6 tubes in series would be 1200 to 1800V. Nice match, I think.

Looking at blurry images beneath 1950's TV quality is always fun. :)

NickZ


   Tesla never mentioned anything about "electrons", as being the same as the Aether.  He did mention that there are two opposite charges, positive and negative charges, and that the source of those charges is the Aether.
   So, if you "know" or assume that the extra energy is coming from the Aether, has this information helped to make a self running device?
Or we can just continue to repeat what Tesla has mentioned, again, and again, as he did not say just how to build such a device, which can extract this illusive energy.

   Akula's first device also works without any ground connection. And this last replication of his second device, that I just posted previously, is not showing a ground wire, either. Although it's possible that I missed something, as I can't understand what is being said. So, a ground connection may be beneficial, but not essential for a device to function. So, this may prove (to some) that the source of this extra energy is not coming from the ground, in this case.

Cap-Z-ro

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