Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[wattsup]

@baroutologos

Regarding the FG outputs, my FGs gives me 16v or 8v p-p. The way I use my FG is simple for me to see if there is any OU before I need to do more exhaustive input and output measurements. For me it is simple because I always use the same output strategy which is my diode to capacitor with a LED bank as load. I already know that when I connect my FG directly to the load, the maximum I can get as steady voltage on the capacitor with load is around 9.34 volts with the load on. So during my testing, if I see the voltage rise to that level or more, then I know I have something special since I use a small 10uF 370v capacitor that acts as the RMS agent. This way I can do low level testing, find resonance frequencies, measure output and see where the best settings are, then it is to re-do the same with a solo setup if the preliminary results warrant it. In my last video with the standard yoke coils, I managed to get it up around 8.65v by shorting the analog coil of 50 turns. I will know soon enough once I have a yoke wired up like @T-1000.

@all

Well I have my other Yoke.

OK, I know guys want to theorize in the last few pages but there is no point to that. The doing will tell it all and right now, for us,  @T-1000 has the highest insight. Once I make my coil, I will do some hunting.

Just to have an idea, can anyone with a built yoke of 18 awg wire, please check your coils for ohmage and if possible inductance. I have not wound mine yet cause I have to get the wire but the type of wire is my present questioning. To know the type of wire, I need to know why or how this fits into a circuit in an effort to build the Yoke Coil with the lest checkmates possible. That I don't have. So what do we do?

I see that @T-1000 wound his yoke using the same 18 awg stranded wire for all three coils and he is using a copper strip, while I see @stivep using single strand wire and his strip is a thick braided grounded lead. So which way to go. What I am really worried about is the copper or braided strip that is going to receive the high voltage. Well the copper strip is not insulated and what will happen when the HV hits it. It may be causing internal arcing. The same goes for the braided strip which would be even worst. So I am thinking that the copper strip should have some coating to isolate it from the two primary winds. @T-1000 fixed that problem with his wire be plastic coated but the wire is stranded and not single strand. So I guess all this will be part of the R&D aspect.

So for me the most logical is as follows;

1) Copper strip must be insulated with not more then one layer of electrical tape and the strip should be long enough so the actual HV connections can be made as far away from the Yoke as possible.

2) 15 turns - Well the build says to put the 50Hz there but my preliminary FG tests show that the 15 should receive the highest frequency. I tried it the other way and the results where not good. High frequency does not require many winds to impart the effect. Even a few turns would do the same job. So I think I will put single strand but since it is only 15 turns that will be on the top, this can be changed quickly to other wire types if required.

3) 50 turns - The build says put the HF here but as discussed above, I am not sure about that. Since this 50 turns wind goes on first, I will use magnet wire to get the greatest punch effect against the copper strip and yoke.

4) 150 turns - This coil will be on the other yoke half so it will be best to just put magnet wire on that one. The only thing is how to make the bifilar wind. When you wind the first layer from left to right, do you continue to wind the second layer from right to left or do you go back to left and wind to the right again. That is my main question for the 150 turns. Also when we say 150 turns bifilar, does this mean the output coil will have a total of 300 turns?

My main worry is when the HV is connected and how the copper strip will act against the other winds. Anyways I have three FGs so I can do the low level tests pulsing the copper strip and the two primaries.

wattsup

[itsu]

Baroutologos


I don't think the Primary A 50 Hz 15 turns coil is driven into resonance.
My 15 turns has an inductance of 120 uF and a natural resonance frequency of 1.550 Mhz (1550 Khz).
The calculated capacitance of the turns is then 87 pF.
To get this coil resonating on 50 Hz would mean to add 85 mF (= milli Farad) of capacitance.

Another indication that this Primary A 50 Hz coil is not being driven in resonance is the fact that
T-1000 states in reply #8349 that it is been driven by a Sinus Wave.

Perhaps T-1000 can confirm this.

Another observation i make is that the resonance of the ferrite when measuring the 2 copper plates/strips/braid
is 5.785 Mhz in my case, so not in the 1 - 2 Mhz range mentioned.
I measured this with my scope and FG, the scope both in scope mode as well as in FTT (spectrum) mode.

Could be that my yoke from a recent computer monitor has different spec's, but when looking to the "spagep kontur.jpg"
scope shot in reply #8043 (page 537) i see a nice (resonance?) sine wave of 7.58Mhz when appearently driven by a
FG frequency of 1.660 Mhz (ramp wave).

To me this means that also here the ferrite resonance frequency is in the 5-7 Mhz range.
Just my 2 cents.

Regards Itsu

[KultusNagrand]

Thanks for the warm welcome Wattsup, Sad to hear you burnt out your Flyback, this raises a couple of questions for me to ask you though, hopefully we can save your next one...

did you have the flyback immersed in oil ?

if not, the pin outs at the bottom,  were they arcing out? (most comon cause of death with a Fb is pinouts arcing from the HV ground and sending low KVs though the primary wind they really don't like that)

lastly what diode were you using in my circuit ?

I will take a good look at T1000's circuit tomorrow after a good read of the forum and good dose of sleep. Maybe if he reads this post over night or if anyone can tell me can throw me a line as to what is going on with the Sec winding, HV winding and the circuit half to the lower left of his schematic, I cannot see how the FB's HV and sec winding are even interacting with the rest of the circuit, it seems to be of 2 complete halfs with no connection.

anyhow off to bed. I will check back in the morning.

[verpies]

So, in my view, if the SG manages somehow (without burned obviously) to feed Primary A @ (say) some 0.25 Amps (while in resonant rise) at those 120v p-p (as oscillograms suggest) or 45 AC then the power in would be some 11w and not 2.5watt
Thanks

This is very wrong !

45 Volts * 0.25 Amps is not always 11.25 Watts in AC circuits.
Volts * Amps = Watts is true only for DC circuits !

I don't think the inventors have measured the power fed to the LF and HF primary windings.

To do that, they would have to take simultaneous oscilloscope readings of the current and voltage in the primary circuits and multiply these readings sample by sample (multiplying the average readings taken by e.g a DMMs would be a grievous error!).

In AC circuits, average Voltage * Current is not always Power, even if the current and voltage are measured with True RMS meters, because those meters still measure average values! 

Even if one accounts for the phase difference between the average current and voltage, it is not possible to calculate true power in an AC circuit if all waveforms are not perfect sinewaves.

Measuring power in non-DC circuits requires multiplication of the instantaneous current and voltage.
To understand this you must understand the difference between:
- Instantenous voltage VERSUS average voltage.
- Instantenous current VERSUS average current.

Failure to differentiate between these concepts can easily lead to power measurements that are miscalculated by 1000%

I see this mistake made over and over by my students.

[wattsup]

Thanks for the warm welcome Wattsup, Sad to hear you burnt out your Flyback, this raises a couple of questions for me to ask you though, hopefully we can save your next one...

did you have the flyback immersed in oil ?

if not, the pin outs at the bottom,  were they arcing out? (most comon cause of death with a Fb is pinouts arcing from the HV ground and sending low KVs though the primary wind they really don't like that)

lastly what diode were you using in my circuit ?

I will take a good look at T1000's circuit tomorrow after a good read of the forum and good dose of sleep. Maybe if he reads this post over night or if anyone can tell me can throw me a line as to what is going on with the Sec winding, HV winding and the circuit half to the lower left of his schematic, I cannot see how the FB's HV and sec winding are even interacting with the rest of the circuit, it seems to be of 2 complete halfs with no connection.

anyhow off to bed. I will check back in the morning.

@KultusNagrand

No oil. At OU.com we are trying to get rid of oil. lol

Yes there was some arching and some funny noise from inside the flyback coil. I think it was when I tried the center circuit I had passed the pin 10 through pin 4 and 5 and put a capacitor across pins 7 and 8 to replicate the center circuit. This may have weakened the coil and when I did some other tests mainly on my TPU mock-up, it blew the flyback. Does not take much for them arcs to destroy any of the internal coil strands.

I forgot to mention that when I tried your circuit the 0.01uf capacitor did not work for me. But after trying to many caps with no success, I tried a small inductor and it worked perfectly.

When I found a capacitor replacement.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg303571#msg303571

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