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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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aether22

I have been doing my own experiments with spark gaps and coils, simple stuff, my insights might 'spark' something.


I had a pickup coil going through a BR and charging a cap (350v 4400uf electrolytic), I found that when I charged the cap from an uncharged state, each firing of the spark gap on the primary would add very little energy into the cap.


Once the cap became charged to 250v each impulse would add far more energy.


Now there is probably far more voltage being induced in my coil, but my cap can't take it.


So why is less energy delivered to the cap when it offers low resistance?
The answer is simple, the current that it can deliver is limited. (in effect anyway)
A large pulse of current in the pickup coil would like any transformer be 180 degrees out of phase killing the voltage produced by the rate of change of flux from the primary.


In a normal transformer this kills the impedance of the primary causing more current to flow, but not so much in these HF HV air core loose coupled transformers.


So one definite point of this post is to convey that to get the most energy out, we must have sufficient resistance to match the voltage induced in the pickup (secondary) coil.

The current pulse needed to 'cancel' the incoming HV EMF can be all current and no voltage in a low resistance circuit hence little energy, or by having a high resistance and the same pulse can occur generating high voltage and high(er) energy.  Actually the latter likely draws less energy from the primary as the current may be a little less all depending on the voltage potential and resistance.

This could be by charging a correctly chosen cap value in a resonant circuit (more about that later).
Or a higher value cap used as a DC storage cap, already charged to a good voltage.
A suitable resistive load.
Possibly a bank of batteries to be recharged, but what batteries need high voltages?

A second point of this post is to show that there is a POSSIBLE free energy principle here that might already be in use in TK's device and less effectively by STAAR!

So how does induction work? How is an EMF induced?
Answer: Change in intensity of or movement of magnetic flux.
So what gives the intensity of the EMF (voltage) induced?
Answer: The rate of change of the flux
So not the intensity of the magnetic field?
Answer: No, the voltage is created entirely by the rate of change.
So what decides the amps it can induce?
Answer: This is an interesting question and is less straightforward, but the simple answer is that it can provide voltage that assists amps to flow until the pickup coil/secondary creates an equal and opposite rate of change. Normally all induction tends to induce current that opposes any change in the magnetic field.
So how does it work in a normal generator?
Answer: In a generator (chosen because transformers are trickier) the current in the generator coils is decided by the strength of the magnetic field inducing it but rather indirectly, if the magnetic field inducing them never reversed and merely varied from 1 Tesla to .9 Tesla and back the current in the generator coils would be the same as that of an alternating magnetic field with a peek of .05 Tesla in each direction.
In other words a long duration of EMF in effect builds up and pins (thanks also to the pickup coils self inductance) the current to a high value.
So is there any way to create a long duration of voltage without building up (or collapsing) a powerfull magnetic field which of course requires a large investment of energy?
Answer: Not that I am aware of, any flux that in established must collapse. If due to a difference in the rate of change (wedge shaped waveform) and or some asymmetry in the aether you did manage to produce a net DC induction you would have free energy available!
Ok, so what we want to do is to have our HV EMF (created with a low intensity HF field) induce on a circuit with a high current flowing, so could we just do that?
Answer: Maybe, first we would need to have a low resistance and powered by a low voltage source, so we have invested as little energy as possible to get a high current flowing.
Then to induce in the low impedance pickup coil a very high voltage per turn (high rate of change) EMF we want a weak magnetic field that is oscillating very fast, a tank circuit would be ideal for minimum waste.
So now we have one circuit producing high amps and another producing high volts, but neither using very much energy, but what happens once we induce even a little extra current in our pickup coil?


The pickup coil responds by increasing (or when in the wrong part of the wave decreasing) the current creating a changing magnetic field that is opposite of the one we are applying.
This kills the 'dipole' that was being induced by creating an opposite 'dipole'. (dipole is just another word for EMF)


So to keep this from happening, we get our energy from the circuit without extra current flowing, we must suddenly increase the resistance with the EMF, make the EMF we are inducing do it's job by keeping current going rather than by increasing current!


What happens if we simultaneously increase the resistance of a circuit and in direct magnitude increase the EMF? Answer, the current doesn't change! But the energy may be x1000 higher.
The pickup coil still feels all the voltage induced by the primary! As far as the primary is concerned it is acting like the pickup coil/secondary is not there.


There are however a few issues, obviously the induced EMF must be great with as few turns as possible, any impedance that exists is an energy cost/loss, the emf and load must be carefully selected and switched simultaneously for maximum energy gain.
note: Actually I am not sure about the impedance needing to be low, it's complex.


Then as the EMF from the source reverses it will oppose the current in the pickup coil and attempt to collapse it, if the impedance is high enough in the pickup coil then this will not stop the current but will reduce it a bit, if the impedance is extremely low it might completely collapse the current in the pickup coil although in this case there is essentially no energy stored in the pickup coil.


But how does this apply to this thread?

Well what if the pickup coil is an AC circuit rather than the DC circuit assumed above?


Let's have a ringing LC tank circuit, and start the conversation with the charged cap beginning it's discharge into the inductor.


The cap begins to discharge though the inductor slowed down by the impedance offered by the inductor, the current grows and finally the cap is fully discharged and there is a current flowing in the inductor.
At this moment we have current and almost no resistance for this moment at least.


Then the capacitor begins to get charged in the reverse direction to it's previous state, the resistance begins to rise and the magnetic field begins to collapse creating voltage pushing more charge into the capacitor.


What if as the resistance in increasing and the current just starting to fall we had an incoming EMF impulse induced from a primary coil, this impulse would expect to accelerate electrons through the wire, but due to the rising resistance all it can do is temporary stave of the reduction of current?


Finally the EMF from the inductor has collapsed the the incoming wave has reached it's peak, preferably it stays high (or low) until the same point in the next cycle since we can't gain OU from overcoming the impedance with the recieved EMF it must fight the capacitance! not the impedance!


Therefore I have 2 recommendations, 1: Use loads that match the voltages being induced to gain maximum power.
2: If you can apply EMF in just the right way in a tank circuit you seemingly create/tap free energy.


Analogy: Push a child on a swing, if you push them forward from the end of the backswing as is normal you are increasing their speed which will create an inertial resistance (impedance) as you try to accelerate them, if you try and push them in the center of the forward swing it is hard to apply any energy to them as there is nothing resisting their movement for you to push against, but if you push on them as they start to slow down you can easily do work pushing on them as they are slowing (or about to), but you have not actually accelerated them, merely increased their gravitational potential energy by pushing them higher.

It appears that by correct phasing of current through a primary with the current circulating in a tank circuit we can induce excess energy!


One remaining question from the start of this (large) post...
What happens when you leave a bunch of voltage 'on the table?' What does this do to space/the aether?
Or is this energy destroyed?
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes


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aether22

Forgive me my ignorance but that reminds me squirell-cage rotor. What if we replace capacitor with HV shorted coil and then use third coil to tap energy ? doesn't it look like Kapanadze device now ?

Alena

Quote from: xt_tj on January 30, 2012, 03:00:39 AM
questions?


The parameters of the transformer secondary power supply

toroid, ferrite 45 x 26 x 24 M2000 (two rings).
The secondary winding - 120 turns of wire 0.5 mm
The primary winding - 2 x 5 turns in the two wires of 2.5 mm square.

With the generator secondary power supply is fed 50 kHz

With the generator transformer row is regulated by the frequency mode.

On the winding assemblies established.
Dotted line - because in some circuits in the network have no Wesley of this compound.

aether22

I have only kept up with this thread somewhat sporadically since the yoke device stopped being mentioned, so maybe this should be more apparent than it is, but I was reading about the trumpet waveform.


And while I neglected to see what circuit made that let alone where in the circuit it was taken, it seems to fit the caduceus STAAR design rather well, with the collapse of the trumpet being when spark breakdown occurring.


So if you increase the sparkgap rate, this trumpet should go higher right?


But where is the turmpet waveform taken, because if it is across the load then that seems to indicate that the less frequently the SG fires the more power one gets out of it?


Are these assumptions correct?
Does this explain why TK's spark gap had a low frequency?


Finally, if 2 stages are good, why quit there, I wonder what happens with a 3rd stage?



?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes