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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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wasabi

Quote from: jbignes5 on October 07, 2012, 06:22:32 PM
talking about math. Lets look at it this way if the average ac current was net zero then there would be no such current at all.
The latter statement is not the conclusion of the former.
The average value does not determine the instantaneous values, however it does the other way around. Averaging functions are not bijective.

Quote from: jbignes5 on October 07, 2012, 06:22:32 PM
So in your logic for an given point in time the current is always zero.
I implied no such conclusion. It is your lack of understanding of non-injective functions, such as the mean, that led you to this conclusion, ...a conclusion which you strangely attribute to me.  This debating technique is known as the "Straw Man" strategy, and it will not work on me, either.

Quote from: jbignes5 on October 07, 2012, 06:22:32 PM
So what are you here for anyways? Obviously it's not to help with figuring this process out.
I am here to prevent you from getting away with feeding this forum with falsehoods and loose thinking.

BTW: I have witnessed O/I>1 so I am a believer that OU is possible (e.g. by converting matter to energy), but the path there does not lead through ignorance of science, math and logic.

br549

TO Verpies:

The frequency that I was using was 60hz.
Thank-you:   and Yes I would appreciate any information on a more accurate method or device for measuring power at different frequencies.

jbignes5

Quote from: wasabi on October 08, 2012, 03:53:40 AM
The latter statement is not the conclusion of the former.
The average value does not determine the instantaneous values, however it does the other way around. Averaging functions are not bijective.
I implied no such conclusion. It is your lack of understanding of non-injective functions, such as the mean, that led you to this conclusion, ...a conclusion which you strangely attribute to me.  This debating technique is known as the "Straw Man" strategy, and it will not work on me, either.
I am here to prevent you from getting away with feeding this forum with falsehoods and loose thinking.

BTW: I have witnessed O/I>1 so I am a believer that OU is possible (e.g. by converting matter to energy), but the path there does not lead through ignorance of science, math and logic.


Just stop you are not the forum police. And to tell you the truth I don't rightly care what you or anyone thinks. I'm only here to record what I find in a public matter. Spin it however you like but I won't be responding to your tripe anymore.


I am not here to debate with anyone if you don't want to see the way then you will never be able to see the truth.


A debate has to have two sides. Calling me out with saying that is a straw mans method is no such debate.

As usual you pick and choose quotes from me with no real context. I have admitted that the meter was wrong and you still sit here pouting about debating techniques. I use no such methods.


Anyways time to get back to the forum and what we are trying to do. It seems to me that when I get attacked like that from a low poster it is because I'm onto something. Thanks for the tip. Oh and select what I write with razor accuracy so the other 5 lines that explains what I mean don't come into the picture does nothing other then embarrass yourself. Get off it will you. You are not the forum police.


Yeah your a believer of overunity but cling to your antiquated formulas that are designed to never show OU. That is like saying I believe in freedom but do everything to limit free speech. IT doesn't work like that. If I am saying bs it will show in the proof or lack of proof.

I think I'll ask the forum owner if your ip is the same as verpies. Somehow I am betting it is.



jbignes5



@wattsup if you use a watt meter it must be across the circuit you are using. You have it across only one portion of the circuit and expect it to show wattage of the circuit you have mistaken the circuit connections. You are bypassing the ground that the power companies use in the house and are routing the current through the pole grounds instead via your ground tap. This is pretty much tapping the power they provide and avoiding the recording device they use to record the current flow. This is probably not the best thing to do.


So this brings me back to my experiments with an open bifilar coil.


I'm thinking of using a joule thief as a method to get oscillations on the cheap and then see if I can leverage the transformer action to net us a gain in the receiving circuit. I'm working on a schematic and will report my findings once I build the unit.


If the open bifilar coils work as my initial observation they should be used on my exciter/generator/motor design that Tesla patented.

On the subject of what got us here in the first place: Conversion of matter to energy is not OU. There is nothing free about having to consume a fuel. this is NOT Over unity and might I suggest that anyone who says that is working for the companies that supply that matter for consumption. Anyone that says matter consumption to get energy only supports what is being taught in our system today. This is not true over unity.

Over unity is an attraction of excess energy in the environment to the device produced by me or you and converted to a form we can use. It is certainly not based on consumption of anything at all. Heck even the energy can not be destroyed, only converted to one form or the other.

verpies

Quote from: br549 on October 08, 2012, 07:24:17 AM
The frequency that I was using was 60hz.
Thank-you:   and Yes I would appreciate any information on a more accurate method or device for measuring power at different frequencies.
At 60Hz these wattmeters should be pretty accurate unless one of them did not use a true 4-quadrant multiplier.

This Daniel guy constructed a decent wattmeter that used an ordinary digital multimeter as an external display. See:
http://danyk.wz.cz/wmetr_en.html

However he used an inferior AD633 analog multiplier.
If you use the superior 2GHz multiplier (ADL5391) instead of the AD633, the result will be a very accurate wattmeter. 
The 2GHz multiplier ADL5391 costs only $7.

With the ADL5391 you will have to alter the voltage dividers, CSR and Zener diodes, though, because the ADL5391 is a 5V integrated circuit.

P.S.
The Czech word "bočnik" means "current sensing resistor" (CSR)