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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Ganzha

http://youtu.be/FS3Pdt4hTKk

here is video that proves that it is possible to sent a power of 3 KW via thin one string cuprum that could transmit a power and be ground in the same time//////
It means you do not need to have energy generator in green box but just to have a one string from outside power generator and this string would looks like simple ground zero cable/////
http://youtu.be/FS3Pdt4hTKk

verpies

Quote from: Ganzha on October 08, 2012, 12:47:47 PM
Here is video that proves that it is possible to send 3kW of power via one thin copper wire that can transmit power and be grounded at the same time//////
It means you do not need to have an energy generator in the Green Box, but it is just eough to have one wire coming from an external power generator and this wire can appear as a simple grounding cable/////
http://youtu.be/FS3Pdt4hTKk
The thin wire does not form a loop and the video camera is working just fine close to it!
Good find Ganzha.

wattsup

Well now that some have blown some steam maybe we can get this thready locomotive rolling again. ALL ABOARD!!!!! lol

@all

My house copper piping is totally isolated from any AC grounds, even the ground on the hot water tank connection was removed. I am convinced this is working with a true Earth ground. I will however try again and isolate the grounding rod of my home to use it instead but I know it will work. But here is the clincher.

A battery driven square wave 150 watt inverter that I just purchased for this test does not do it. It may have to be a sine wave inverter. With the sign wave inverter will equal the mains supply and we can see if it does it. Seems like the square wave inverter is just supplying a pulsed energy and not really an alternating smoothly transitional energy so it must be creating some harmonics that keeps the Earth energy out of the system.

So.........Question #1 to all friends of TK.

Do you have any specific information on the inverter TK used in the 2004 and Green Box (GB)?

Specific means specific. No guesses please or we will blow another 10 pages away.

Specific means model, year, manufacturer, functions, wave type, etc. Or if you have specs on a model close to that one or other models of that manufacturer.

If TKs trick is to use the active wire of an AC single phase supply, then maybe his inverter output plug that goes to the first transformer in the 2004 video is modified. From inside the inverter he just puts the active AC side on both plug terminals. He then sends this to the open transformer terminals but from under the tape of the transformer wind he cuts the winding to not make a short. So the AC5 line going to the tin can having two wires may be really one wire paired to double the amperage capacity of that conductor. This renders the transformer useless but he does not care about that because it is only there for show to confuse people into thinking he is using it for a special reason.

This would also explain why he used the inverter back plug to start up the device. Why go to the trouble of sending that plug to the back of the inverter? He could have put that plug directly with the open transformer supply plug and used it from there to start up the device. He sends that plug to the back were probably only one of the wires is going to the inverter output plug but he does not want to show you this of course and he surely did not want the two conductors of the mains socket to go directly to the open transformer. WHY???????????

So the TK device could simply be his inverter and everything else is just smoke and mirrors. I mean everything.

1) The transistors may be for show. This explains how in the GB video one of his assistants was able to press his thumb onto one of the transistors very hard for a good second or so then tested the heat from the second. It was an impulsive move on his part but very revealing.

2) The TK coil may be a show. This explains the many coil topologies that are more fantastic one from the other. In the 2004/GB that TK coil with the number of winds, one or two coils, who cares, there is nothing that can happen between those two coils besides being used as a fancy looking pair of elongated conductors.

3) The spark gap may be a show. We have used spark gaps galore in our builds. They are basically a consumer of energy, non alternating, HV voltage but weak amperage events and looking at the 2004 video, we see the device working without a spark gap.

We need to find out more about TKs inverter. Is it a square or sine wave inverter? Given the size, I would say it is a sine wave inverter. Why would he used such an inverter when you have millions of square wave inverters available around the world for such low prices, even in those days.

Time to hunt for a sine wave inverter.

Here is Question #2;

Can a DC motor turn a small AC generator to produce single phase AC, that you then only use the one active wire to run the system so the AC motor generates no load to the DC drive motor? Is it possible that the noise of the blue inverter in the 2004 video (rather harsh motor wanting to turn noise) was a DC  motor that had trouble starting and that's why he plugged the other plug to lessen the AC side load and free the DC motor to reach its maximum revolutions.

Lot's of things to think about but to least these are all plausible and rather out of the box.

I am sure we are close but the thing is guys are talking all over the place on this thread. If guys can convene that for the next two weeks, only discuss pertinent TK device subjects, things that point directly to some component or SPECIFIC aspect of the device only. Stay away from universal theories, etheric theories, NMR theories, Tesla or personal theories or any other discussion that does not implicate a specific part of the builds, then I think we will crack this egg. But keep spilling useless beans and we will be here forever. This is not an ego trip so please keep to the topic. I am tired of wading through endless posts to find some small portion of useful info.

As I have been saying for years now on this forum. "Sometimes the best post is not posting and simply saying nothing". Before posting, read your posts, work it, put them aside for a few hours and in most cases you will realize there is no need to post it because someone just said what yo wanted to say and the line of reasoning can continue from there.

wattsup

jbignes5

Quote from: wattsup on October 08, 2012, 01:16:26 PM
Well now that some have blown some steam maybe we can get this thready locomotive rolling again. ALL ABOARD!!!!! lol

@all

My house copper piping is totally isolated from any AC grounds, even the ground on the hot water tank connection was removed. I am convinced this is working with a true Earth ground. I will however try again and isolate the grounding rod of my home to use it instead but I know it will work. But here is the clincher.

A battery driven square wave 150 watt inverter that I just purchased for this test does not do it. It may have to be a sine wave inverter. With the sign wave inverter will equal the mains supply and we can see if it does it. Seems like the square wave inverter is just supplying a pulsed energy and not really an alternating smoothly transitional energy so it must be creating some harmonics that keeps the Earth energy out of the system.

So.........Question #1 to all friends of TK.

Do you have any specific information on the inverter TK used in the 2004 and Green Box (GB)?

Specific means specific. No guesses please or we will blow another 10 pages away.

Specific means model, year, manufacturer, functions, wave type, etc. Or if you have specs on a model close to that one or other models of that manufacturer.

If TKs trick is to use the active wire of an AC single phase supply, then maybe his inverter output plug that goes to the first transformer in the 2004 video is modified. From inside the inverter he just puts the active AC side on both plug terminals. He then sends this to the open transformer terminals but from under the tape of the transformer wind he cuts the winding to not make a short. So the AC5 line going to the tin can having two wires may be really one wire paired to double the amperage capacity of that conductor. This renders the transformer useless but he does not care about that because it is only there for show to confuse people into thinking he is using it for a special reason.

This would also explain why he used the inverter back plug to start up the device. Why go to the trouble of sending that plug to the back of the inverter? He could have put that plug directly with the open transformer supply plug and used it from there to start up the device. He sends that plug to the back were probably only one of the wires is going to the inverter output plug but he does not want to show you this of course and he surely did not want the two conductors of the mains socket to go directly to the open transformer. WHY? ??? ??? ??? ?

So the TK device could simply be his inverter and everything else is just smoke and mirrors. I mean everything.

1) The transistors may be for show. This explains how in the GB video one of his assistants was able to press his thumb onto one of the transistors very hard for a good second or so then tested the heat from the second. It was an impulsive move on his part but very revealing.

2) The TK coil may be a show. This explains the many coil topologies that are more fantastic one from the other. In the 2004/GB that TK coil with the number of winds, one or two coils, who cares, there is nothing that can happen between those two coils besides being used as a fancy looking pair of elongated conductors.

3) The spark gap may be a show. We have used spark gaps galore in our builds. They are basically a consumer of energy, non alternating, HV voltage but weak amperage events and looking at the 2004 video, we see the device working without a spark gap.

We need to find out more about TKs inverter. Is it a square or sine wave inverter? Given the size, I would say it is a sine wave inverter. Why would he used such an inverter when you have millions of square wave inverters available around the world for such low prices, even in those days.

Time to hunt for a sine wave inverter.

Here is Question #2;

Can a DC motor turn a small AC generator to produce single phase AC, that you then only use the one active wire to run the system so the AC motor generates no load to the DC drive motor? Is it possible that the noise of the blue inverter in the 2004 video (rather harsh motor wanting to turn noise) was a DC  motor that had trouble starting and that's why he plugged the other plug to lessen the AC side load and free the DC motor to reach its maximum revolutions.

Lot's of things to think about but to least these are all plausible and rather out of the box.

I am sure we are close but the thing is guys are talking all over the place on this thread. If guys can convene that for the next two weeks, only discuss pertinent TK device subjects, things that point directly to some component or SPECIFIC aspect of the device only. Stay away from universal theories, etheric theories, NMR theories, Tesla or personal theories or any other discussion that does not implicate a specific part of the builds, then I think we will crack this egg. But keep spilling useless beans and we will be here forever. This is not an ego trip so please keep to the topic. I am tired of wading through endless posts to find some small portion of useful info.

As I have been saying for years now on this forum. "Sometimes the best post is not posting and simply saying nothing". Before posting, read your posts, work it, put them aside for a few hours and in most cases you will realize there is no need to post it because someone just said what yo wanted to say and the line of reasoning can continue from there.

wattsup


I have to say this. Wattsup even though you think you are picking an isolated ground the power company grounds the poles every block or so. This is common practice on the neutral side to keep the potential even on the neutral side. It's called bonding. The ground for the service is a local tap to the pole. you are bypassing that tap which is connected to the service meter. This is unfortunately a bypass for the meter using another ground which isn't tied to the meter but returns power via your tap to the bonded ground of the pole.
One way to find out if you are doing this is to turn everything off in your house so that the meter outside is not spinning and then run the experiment and then check the meter. If it is spinning then you have not done anything but what they are doing other then bypassing the normal way to measure the wattage by changing the pathway of the return AC signal. As long as that meter is spinning you won't be stealing from them. If on the other hand it doesn't spin then I would suspect you found a way to take the active portion of the AC signal and created a difference enoiugh to run a load at normal current levels. I highly doubt this but it could happen I am guessing.


This isn't what TK is doing. There is no connection to the power system at all besides what is in his house version. If you look at the backyard version he doesn't use the power system at all. In fact the backyard version he uses 2 ground connections. I have no clue as to the ground connection he used in the house. In fact it could be viewed as using one ground connection from outside and another from the house ground.


As to the inverter unit he uses the backyard presentation showed the face of the unit and he tells the wattage of the unit as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goq76CQapyI at 10:16 he shows the inverters face but again this is a rather bad video that is extremely pixilated.

If you wanted to know how this device works then watch the video all the way through. He talks about a resonator that automatically changes to the resonant frequency of his primary and secondary coils in the coiled device. He states this is hidden till he gets patent information and is what the guy was looking at under the box that his helper was trying to say no to look at. This is important because he wanted to get patent rights but he does say it is based on Melnichenko. The auto resonance device is probably the key and is what was in the tin can of the inside video.