Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[Hoppy]

Yes I see, so it does, mine doesn't, what a waste of light that is. 

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As a point of interest, I have stripped down a 5W, 3 LED lamp and measured power consumption running on 240V mains and it is exactly 5W according to my wattmeter. Measuring the on-load output voltage gives 10.5V. When run straight from a 10.5V DC supply, power consumption is 3.8W, a saving of 1.2W which is being dissipated in the step-down circuitry. So, Kyle's stripped down mains LED lamp running from a solar backed supply is a definite contender for an economic domestic lighting system. Its very easy to strip down the lamps and worth doing with the cheap asian imports, or with 'blown' mains LED lamps where the circuitry usually fails rather than the LED elements.

[madsatbg]

Comparison of consumption of conventional flashlight and torch.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCz42n669_g&feature=c4-overview&list=UUL3FG2w2de82NLM0bn-Mhwg

[pepsimaxzu]

dont get it? leds are connected to 4.3 volts? if yes leds lighting more but their life is thousand times worse.

[Farmhand]

As a point of interest, I have stripped down a 5W, 3 LED lamp and measured power consumption running on 240V mains and it is exactly 5W according to my wattmeter. Measuring the on-load output voltage gives 10.5V. When run straight from a 10.5V DC supply, power consumption is 3.8W, a saving of 1.2W which is being dissipated in the step-down circuitry. So, Kyle's stripped down mains LED lamp running from a solar backed supply is a definite contender for an economic domestic lighting system. Its very easy to strip down the lamps and worth doing with the cheap asian imports, or with 'blown' mains LED lamps where the circuitry usually fails rather than the LED elements.

Wow you are a fast worker, impressive. 

Interestingly if we take your stripped down LED power consumption of 3.8 watts x 3 lamps = 11.4 Watts.

If we take the figures of 11.8 v x 0.89 A = 10.52 Watts and divided by 3 = 3.5 watts. could be a good graft to swap out the Halogens for LED's and switch in a different shunt for the current meter to prolong observed run time of the same device, seemingly.

If we look at halogens the ones I have consume 3.2 amperes from a 12.3 volt battery = 40 Watts each x 3 = 120 Watts divided by 11.8 v = 10 A but from 11.8 volts they would consume less of course. Or even 105 / 11.8 V = 8.8 A /3 lamps = 2.95 per lamp x 11.8 = 35 Watts per lamp in the video. But they are blinding bright. Even through the sides.

Now 3 x 3.7 volt cells = only 11.1 volts but fully charged rechargeable Li Ion batteries can be between about 3.9 v and 4.2 v so 4.1 x 3 = 12.3 volts.

I guess the question is what does the supply voltage of 3 x 3.7 v (Nominal) Li Ion cells go to under the strain of 100 Watts draw or 9 Amperes output current ? We can see at the end of the video the voltage is dropping to 11.7 and the current is dropping as well during the clip.

And what does it go to under only 0.89 Amp draw ?

We could expect that if the 3 x Li Ion cells were fully charged at 4.1 volts x 3 cell = 12.3 volts when a load is connected like three of your gutted LEDs the voltage would drop some but with three x 35 - 40 Watt halogens it would drop more.

If your gutted LED's are supplied 11.8 volts would they blow or light up like the "sun" ? Anyway it seems to me the current draw of the Halogens and the LED's could be almost the same but for one decimal place, if the current shunt was changed it could look the same.

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[Farmhand]

dont get it? leds are connected to 4.3 volts? if yes leds lighting more but their life is thousand times worse.

Most of those LED torches have a voltage converter circuit, some I have can take either one 3.7 volt battery or they can take 2 x 3.7 volt batteries in series which is up to 8.4 volts, or they can also take the three AAA batteries which is 3 x 1.5v or 4.5 volts for non rechargeable batts, or 3 x 1.4 v to 1.2 v =  4.2 to 3.6 volts respectively for rechargeable AAA batts. It depends on the torch. Some cannot take 8 volts some can. Some have voltage converters some don't. Maybe constant current supply circuit or something, not sure.

There is a video of a guy that takes the circuitry out of a Ultrafire 501b torch and the brightness increased, so the circuit was restricting the power supplied by the battery.

Without knowing the circuit it's impossible to say. Brightness does not always equate to power. For instance with my torches they can turn on and off at 10 Hz at the same brightness as full brightness on high setting obviously using less power than always on, but if we were to increase the strobe frequency to about 100 Hz we would not notice the strobe effect and the power consumption would still be less than when always on, although the total light emitted would be less, due to "period" on and off, even though the brightness would be the same. (on a side note the 10 Hz strobe make me feel odd !) It's disturbing to my perception.

This is similar to power and energy. Brightness and total light emitted. They are not directly relative to each other.

Cheers

EDITED: some small Errors.