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Overunity Machines Forum



FM Concepts posts working video 4/7/2009

Started by CLaNZeR, July 04, 2009, 04:14:31 PM

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magnetman12003

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 06, 2009, 10:41:54 AM
Now YOU're the skeptic. Congratulations!

(There are a bunch of ways to do the same outside, up close and far away, on video. I do believe I could even make one that you could hold in your hand, and if I didn't let you saw it in half, you'd never know it was fake.)

I know that in this forum many ideas are posted and since we see no real working device yet one of two things might be happening:  The actual real working devices are quickly confiscated by MIB or fakes are displayed by scam artists hoping for quick fame and fortune.
  Its rare when an honest person steps up to the plate and offers his "Working Device" to the general public to replicate. My hope is the inventor is such a person. I to can be skeptical and both vigilant and hopefull at the same time.

maw2432

Quote from: LightRider on July 05, 2009, 03:37:43 PM
CLaNZeRS Replication of the FM Concepts PMM Part1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mjyu6YmJkM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.org.uk%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D378&feature=player_embedded

I noticed FM's rotor appears to be a metal material, perhaps stainless steel.  CLaNZeRS Replication is using clear plastic.. I wonder if the rotor material has an effect? 

Bill

Mr_Video

I thought that too, but I read somewhere that FM said that the rotor material made no difference .

** Edit to add **

yup, I found it here:
http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?s=d3056a15f1ed654f70e1fad5c24eaeba&t=378

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The inventor is using Stainless Steel 5mm thick disk. But states that any non magnetic material will produce the same result.

This is more a method of getting past the sticky spot with the arrangement of the array, than the materials and sizes.

But take your point on eddy currents mate

Cheers

Xaero_Vincent

Judging by how carefully the stator is placed on the table, I'd think there is some sort of spinning magnetic coupler mounted underneath the table. The induced field would then cause the rotor to spin. I'll withhold my final judgement until CLaNZeR completes his replication.

If it works then great but on top of spinning the device must also produce measurable torque to handle an external load and fail to accelerate demagnetization due to spinning repulsive action. The energy density of rare-earth magnets is inferior to all modern battery technologies and if magnets also have discharging/demagnetising characteristics (similar to batteries) then permanent magnets used in this manner should be discredited altogether.

magnetman12003

Quote from: Xaero_Vincent on July 06, 2009, 04:00:08 PM
Judging by how carefully the stator is placed on the table, I'd think there is some sort of spinning magnetic coupler mounted underneath the table. The induced field would then cause the rotor to spin. I'll withhold my final judgement until CLaNZeR completes his replication.

   Anyone in the market for a spinning magnetic coupler?  I have a powerful one to sell.  magnetman12003


If it works then great but on top of spinning the device must also produce measurable torque to handle an external load and fail to accelerate demagnetization due to spinning repulsive action. The energy density of rare-earth magnets is inferior to all modern battery technologies and if magnets also have discharging/demagnetising characteristics (similar to batteries) then permanent magnets used in this manner should be discredited altogether.