FM Concepts posts working video 4/7/2009

[TheOne]

This morning I quickly made a model of this spinning device and it doesn't work.  Of course there was some talk of getting a NDA from the inventor guy which I didn't. So, unless I don't have some top secret information, it just spins one turn and hits the wall and stops.  Is it worth even posting a video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tigYmzReW84

Dusty

Good replication, however, the stator need 2 magnets per side, so 4 magnets, 2 stacked on each side

[carbonc_cc]

I'm sitting on the fence on this one.  I see this toy with the same "closing-the-loop" problem I saw with the mylow motor.  Even if you tried to "null" the gate.  Closing the loop would just make the whole thing extremely weak.

[magnetman12003]

I thought that too, but I read somewhere that FM said that the rotor material made no difference .

If thats the case then the inventor must have made more than one of these devices and saw it ran using diferent materials.  Wheres the other devices?  Also beware of the "magic hand" use on any type of self runner.  I have constructed a number of those devices myself that I never posted.

yup, I found it here:
http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?s=d3056a15f1ed654f70e1fad5c24eaeba&t=378

[queue]

This morning I quickly made a model of this spinning device and it doesn't work.  Of course there was some talk of getting a NDA from the inventor guy which I didn't. So, unless I don't have some top secret information, it just spins one turn and hits the wall and stops.  Is it worth even posting a video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tigYmzReW84

Dusty

Hi Dusty

Did you happen to notice that one of his stator magnets in the base is set a wee bit higher than the other one ?
IN these pics you can see ..
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Magnet_Motor_by_FM_Concepts


i think i have these exact same NEOs somewhere in my magnet collections .. will have to check when i get home tonight ..

Cheers
Q

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[exxcomm0n]

Hi All,

I like this one.
It's simple, immediate start, unidirectional, and cheap to build to prove concept. I certainly hope that is is a working concept and applaud the inventor for open-sourcing it (as much as he has....but it's weird w/ the NDA).

Unfortunately I have to sit on the fence w/ the others here as I saw some questionable things in the vid that I'd have to say it was a scam without other more revealing video.

The things I have concern about are:

1.) 0:05-0:11s - You cannot see the table surface the shaft will intersect with. No clear shot of the table top at any time.

2.) 0:13, 2:05-2:08s - Why is the inserted end of the shaft a different color? Is it a different material or is that hiding a machined key on the end of the shaft?

3.) 1:04-1:15 - During the "tilt" part of the presentation it seems extra care is used, as if the central hole of the stator was drilled all the way through and the end of the shaft is resting on the table top. The small glimpse I get of the shaft during the tilt, it seems to be sliding in the central hole and slowing the rotor down due to increased drag (even though this may not jibe with Lightrider's RPM analysis, this is the way it looks to me). After it's set back down it seems to speed up (again, my perception and not to be considered as important as the RPM analysis).

4.) Entire video - The stator assembly is moved rotationally quite a bit and does move laterally a tiny bit during those stator rotations, but is not moved laterally very much at all outside of what could be a "sphere of influence"  from the table surface or underneath the table. It would be nice to see it slide from side to side.

5.) Most of the video - Mr. Hand. It would be nice to see it spontaneously turn for a length of time where the stator is not being influenced by any outside motion.

While I hope that I am mistaken, these anomalies make me want to see more before I spend much time per suing replication of this device.

FM, please make another video of your proof of concept,  hopefully addressing these questions so that we might be a bit more convinced of your discovery and be more inclined to independently replicate it to insure the complete dissemination of the concept.

To all the replicators -
I hope you prove these things dead wrong and good luck!

Thanks!