FM Concepts posts working video 4/7/2009

[TinselKoala]

We have all been here before.

What the nice enlarged picture shows is a rotor with holes that are too large for the magnets, and some hot-glued magnets that didn't want to stay put while the glue set. I am very sure that the builder was trying to achieve a symmetrical arrangement. There is no way that these "precise" out-of-position magnets were deliberately positioned. Look at the machining on the other parts!

Regardless of the positioning of the magnets, there is no way that this device is turning as a result of interactions between the visible magnets.

That's it, have fun. Remember MyLOW!

[Xaero_Vincent]

TinselKoala is probably right here. One quick replication has been made by a member here and it cogs badly.

Even if he were wrong the torque is still probably just slightly above zero after it loses energy breaking through the gate. A torque-less motor that cannot perform any real work is one that ends up in the garbage.

[mrock]

This morning I quickly made a model of this spinning device and it doesn't work.  Of course there was some talk of getting a NDA from the inventor guy which I didn't. So, unless I don't have some top secret information, it just spins one turn and hits the wall and stops.  Is it worth even posting a video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tigYmzReW84

Dusty

Dusty, can it be like this ?

thanks,
mrock

[0c]

Even if he were wrong the torque is still probably just slightly above zero after it loses energy breaking through the gate. A torque-less motor that cannot perform any real work is one that ends up in the garbage.

There's a lot of people that would agree with you, but not me. And it's possible things like this may have actually happened (if there is any truth to some of the rumors and conspiracy theories so rampant in this field of research). Even if the device merely sustains itself, it would be convincing evidence that 2LoT can be beaten. After all, it would be overcoming such things as friction and air resistance, conventionally considered impossible.

There have been a lot of claims out there. Trouble is, nobody seems to be able to reproduce their claimed results under controlled conditions, with credible witnesses.

Anyone who trashes such a device, simply because it can't produce usable torque is a moron.

I will say this much, if I ever get a WhipMag which can repeatably be shown to self-sustain, I promise you it will find its way to a physics lab staffed with people a lot smarter and more knowledgable than I am. Doesn't matter if it produces any usable torque, if it can sustain itself, several laws and theories of physics would need to be rewritten.

[Xaero_Vincent]

Oc,

Well many projects replicaters here have claimed to have violated the second law of thermodynamics anyway and ZP vacuum-energy from the Universe (which doesn't appear to violate the law) has already been proven by a German university science professor, for example.

So as unorthodox as it would sound to scientifically confirm the violation of laws of conventional physics, I would not be surprised. I would, however, be surprised if a permanent magnet motor can be proven to actually spin continuously, while having useful excess torque and not suffer from accelerated demagnetization.