Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

[altrez]

Hey Altrez,
I hope I catch you before you go out to buy all that stuff.

You cannot connect them in series.
I don't care what that long article says. You can't do it.

The earth seems to be a kind of  pulsing random current. It is not DC or AC, but RC. You can connect the leads in a parallel way but not a series way. Unless you have acreage, you cannot do the idea you described. Maybe you have acreage, and I should be quiet...

Just my thoughts.

thank you,

jeanna

Humm I can test that with 6 nails and 6 peaces of copper. How much voltage should I get with 1 rod copper and 1 rod galvanized steel? Right now its .970 is that the best it can get? Or is over 1 volt possible?
How much current are you seeing on yours?

Thanks!

-Altrez

[jeanna]

...Or is over 1 volt possible?
How much current are you seeing on yours?

Thanks!

-Altrez

0.9v last night
0.6v this morning.
1.01v last week

but I do not live in a city. I have close neighbors and there is a street but the lines are buried so they come in some kind of pipe I assume.
I am sure the ground from my power use is less than most and my neighbor's which would be as high as most, is far enough away to not add very much.
What I am saying is if the grid went down my EB would probably stay the same.

But whatever you get from zinc nails and copper pipe will reflect what you will get from other metal combos.
Farther apart will probably help.
On the magnetic line will probably help.
I don't understand the complication of what the true north vs magnetic north is. the compass shows magnetic north whatever it is.
I did find a significant difference last year when I moved things a little bit. North east was best for a while, but then that stopped being true.
I think the firestarter helps. I just found mine but haven't replaced the nails.
BTW I think those dipped nails are zinc and other metals including magnesium. They are a better south than straight zinc.
Hmm, I remember a lot, but there is more.
It is ALL there on that EB thread started by localjoe and now called stubblefield for an unexplainable reason. There are many mmany resources on that thread. Some pretty good battery jokes too! 

@iotayodi,
If you think about what DC means.
It means directional current and the direction is one way.
In Tesla's vocabulary it meant steady current.

The earth currents are neither.

Not only that you can apply as much theory as you like we did a lot of basic research 2 years ago, you simply will not get a series connection out of it.
Every time a noob came to the thread, they thought , as Altrez just did, that they could just hook up a series connection and...

Not one of us actually did it.
We ALL wondered at the guy who wrote that big pdf about how it was done with nails inside pipes etc....

... but first I will send a pic from this morning. The great big wave was there again.

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eztcSWZpfJg

Jeanna,   was power being consumed on a regular basis in those setups?

That video is not an earth battery...just galvanic there.  No telluric currents and no ac/dc/pulsed dc spikes from the earth.  If he just used water, he would get better output....for a while.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

The copper holding up isn't really the problem, it's more the minerals/ions in the ground surrounding the electrodes being depleted...  But the electrochemical effects on the electrodes will be seen over time as well.

Pirate,  how long have you had your earth battery running for?

I guess it has been 2 years so far.  I redid the set-up in the spring by getting a more precise alignment (which is very critical for max. output) and a larger block of magnesium and when I dug the stuff up, everything looked new.
These are best aligned with the north/south meridian and NOT magnetic north. 
Polar north in other words) And the angle from the bottom of your electrodes should match the magnetic dip angle for your area as close as you can get it.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

Humm I can test that with 6 nails and 6 peaces of copper. How much voltage should I get with 1 rod copper and 1 rod galvanized steel? Right now its .970 is that the best it can get? Or is over 1 volt possible?
How much current are you seeing on yours?

Thanks!

-Altrez

My best numbers are 2.2 volts and my highest mA reading was 450. (That one I used the Stubblefield coil)  I can fill a 3 volt maxcap (650 Farad) pretty fast though and this is, I believe, due to those spikes we see on the scopes.

This was one of my best arguments back in the early days against the galvanic/chemical battery folks.  A galvanic battery only puts out 1.5 volts.  does not matter if it is an AA AAA or C or D cell battery or a car battery. (car batteries only put out 1.5 volts per cell and are hooked in series to get 12 volts)
There is something else going on here and I do not claim to know what it is.

In seeing what has been done by the Russian Kapandze, which is way over my head, I think the more we understand about what is happening, the better chance we have of utilizing it.

@ All:

Remember, Nathan Stubblefield ran the telephone system of Murry, KY. on earth batteries, and heated his house and lit his farm using them...all in the late 1800's.  No grid anywhere near him in the state at that time which would eliminate the leakage theory.  He was friends with Nikola Tesla.  Tesla's work plays an integral part in the Kapandze experiments yeilding 5 kW by pulsing the earth currents.

Bill