Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

[FrozenWaterLab]

Frozenwaterlabs:


I, as of yet, do not have a data logger on my EER.  But, if I did, and there was something happening across the world from me, I could look at the data and see if it registered here in some way.

Anyway, all of this was Jim's brilliant idea which we have not implemented as of yet.

But we should.

Best of luck with your experiments.

Bill

Thats a thing I would enjoy in the future (Data Logger) but right now I'm in the basic stage (Still on P52) but for future-Yes.
I have both the earthquake and the Volcanic sites on my Bookmark bar.
We have lots of EQ's on a reg basis and volcanic activity from time to time.
That link CosFmr gave talks of that circuit being indicative of EQ's. Still need to study it completely.
Jim sent me his software stuff but I use a Mac (Got an old dell somewhere - have to dig it up)
The Mac is so much more stable I just hate the idea of messing in the PC swamp agine.
I have one of the new mac/PC laptops but don't know how to use it for that stuff yet. Going to learn though I guess.
I maybe need to learn spreadsheets for data gathering also. winter isent far off - good time for that stuff.
Reading bout what tishatang & MW383 will come up with for the Resonance stuff. ElectricMe is going to stick some Transformers in the ground thats interesting also. I'll catch  up eventually.
FrznWtr

[electricme]

@Frozenwaterlabs,

If you wanted to get a wire very high, say from the tallest tree in your area, go and see someone in your local archery club (if there is one there) and ask them to shoot an arrow over the top of the tree, trailing a thin fishing line, from there you setup a nylon pully etc etc on the ground, then pull it all towards the top of the tree.

A lightning arrester can be made very easily by forming a small loop at the bottom of the wire, tying a granny knot then snip the wire at the loop end. Just bring both ends together until you have a 1 mm air gap, that should do it.

I have a very old fish finder chart logger here, it is a moving pen chart recorder, don't know if I can modify it to run with earth energy, don't even know if it will even work.
I'm going up to New Guinea for a 3 week holiday, I'm all packed ready to go, so I will be away from all the forums, it's going to be wonderful to go and visit my old country and see what has changed in 38 years.
jim

[Pirate88179]

Hey Jim, it works!  Pretty sad looking fish though.

Bill

[FrozenWaterLab]

Hi jim
This is the second time I;m trying to post a response.
Tried right after your post and now I see mine didn't work.

Good idea - I have a crossbow pistol so will have to design a free spooling fish line thing.
maybe just loose line on a spool with the end cut off. Just Hope I don't impail my tree with a bolt about 40' up.

Friend of mine suggested a nylon line over the branch and I shouldn't even need the pulley but I will probably use one anyway. I intend to start with a tree about 1/3 way from south west corner. Then go to the N-W tree I gave a picture of then East to the shoppe roof peak. Make a ridge plate to protect the crown cap and pull it taught with a comealong to some 4" posts I have beat 4' into the ground. (No concreat on these though - Hope they wont pull out.)

Not allot of lightning in Alaska but the simple spark gap for safety sounds like the way to go.

Hope the fish-finder works - would be an inexpensive way for us all maybe.

I'm also looking at my metal roof - have to hook it up and try. (That would be a nifty outcome if it worked)

Well I hope you enjoy your trip - don't forget yer camera.
Frznwtr

[FrozenWaterLab]

I went out to try the new handheld O-scope 10meg Velman, but noticed the Mg Ribbon I have and garbed couple rolls and the shovel.

Hooked Pos to the 8' Copper Grounding rod
Hooked Neg to Mg 12"x1' rod 5' away = 1.3V -  .36mA down to .33mA

Buried Mg Ribbon aprox. 3" deep in south direction

10' mG ribbon alone = 1.65V - .74mA DT .72mA
Ribbon & Rod = 1.6V - .72mA DT .7mA

25' of Rib = 1.69V - ? DT .85mA
Rod & Rib = 1.66V - ? DT .8mA

40' of Rib = 1.69V - .82mA DT .77mA
Rod & Rib = 1.64V - .88mA DT .76mA
Seamed to go down which didn't make me happy

At this point I thought to add everything in the area - So
40' Ribbon & 5'distant Mg Rod & 4Mg Rods 1'distant in star = ALL

To both copper Grnd rod & Carbon star as Positive = 1.6V -  ? DT 1.56mA

To the A-hole star Carbons = 1.58V - ? DT 1.62mA (Better then W/Grnd Rod)
more mA so decided to just use Carbon Star for Positive

65' to Carbon star - Neg-ALL = 1.636V - 1.96mA DT 1.7mA
65' to Carbon star Neg-Rib only = Not on notes

80' to Carbon star Neg-ALL = 1.65V - 1.89mA DT 1.68mA
80' to Carbon star Neg-Rib only = 1.774V - 1.71mA DT 1.5mA

94' to Carbon star Neg-ALL = 1.54V - 1.96mA DT 1.65mA
94' to Carbon star Neg-Rib only = 1.7V - 1,6mA DT 1.44mA

Added Mg 1'x1" Rod at end of ribbon
94' to Carbon star Neg-ALL = 1.58V - 2.2mA DT 1.7mA
94' to Carbon star Neg-Rib only = 1.72mA DT 1.45mA

Volt's less but Amp's at load better with all Neg elements I can use.
Need to add Ground Rod and try (Tomorrow)

Also want to add some ribbon off in an E-W direction
and a spiral ring around a tree in the roots
Just to see what can be picked up

Then theirs the poss wire to run
I've got no more North direction (Less I sneak over the fence just for a test run then remove it) its a vacant lot and I know who owns it so it'll be OK

But I will be running to the East with a 12 gage wire and an 18 gage in the same hole about 2" apart 3" deep maybe

Might need to do test with deeper wire but boy that would be some work
(If I ever get a new motor for that trencher I have - It will dig a 2' deep trench)

First time to play with O-scope (Not happy with display but it might just be me learning how to use it)
cant get a large display of signal.

Couple of pics
method of burial
Run along fence (Magnetic N-S oh well)
2 scope shots caught a spike and basic wave

FrznWtr