Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER

[ramset]

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[sigma16]

@ sigma16: You are wrong: If your theory is exact that's mean conventional trafos can't work too... With load or not the flux remain the same (minus hysteresis loss and Eddy currents), even with the Lenz law. Lenz law is here to keep the same flux around the core no matter if the transformer is loaded or not !!! To keep this flux Conventional Trafos draw more current in response to the load current.

The transformer does not work if the flux does not change.  A static magnetic field is not inductive.

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If you insist...

[SchubertReijiMaigo]

Let's me rectfy, I mean if you draw more current in your trafo, the amplitude of B (B is like a sinus) not decrease, because in response to Lenz law your primary draw more current for compensating. If the amplitude decrease the induced voltage decrease also: Faraday law of induction, if take a magnet of 0.5 T and move it 2 times per seconds and you do the same thing with a magnet of 1 T normally you have two time the induced voltage. In a transformer this is exactly similar.
Paramagnetics materials is other thing, those materials is like air u=1 they are linear and they very slighly attract magnetic flux.
Diamagnetics repels (totally in case of superconductors) magnetics flux (u<1).
So in your transformer you have ferromagnetics materials (u>1) that attract magnetics flux... Sorry but I don't see why you talk about paramagnetism and diamagnetism...
Don't worry I'am septic about Heins effect also, but I try to understand why this device can or cannnot work. This device work on current law of physics not some exotic theory... I try to undersatand if the two secondaries can couple together and support each others, I have posted a protocole, this is a fair method to proove/disproove the Heins effect, I am ready in case the effect is not true, but if this effect is not true I want to understand why... And not a merely explanation like this "you violate the law of thermodynamics...".
Regards.

[poynt99]

I've always been puzzled by what exactly Thane's goal is.

In the first BITT Tutorial 101 Thane seems to allude to getting real output power for virtually zero input power. OK, the theory sounds interesting. Now, prove the theory.

In the BITT 2.0 and 3.0, unless I missed it, Thane does no input nor output power measurements. Whether this device merits further investigation begs to have these measurements performed, yet they are avoided.

Thane seems to allude that the output power is only a few Watts, correct? From what I saw of Thane's input/phase/PF measurement with the scope, I am not nearly convinced that the input power is zero.

As I assume the input source is AC through a variac perhaps, I would strongly suggest (as does ION) that Thane pick up a Killawatt meter to properly and simply measure the input power being consumed. I'll send him one if he promises to do the test.

.99

[CRANKYpants]

1. If the magnetic flux vectors oppose, they cancel.  In a transformer, they all go the same direction.  This is also why the polarity of the secondary is reversed compared to the primary.   If AC is flowing through the primary then all of the magnetic flux vectors reverse and the this reversal is evident in the secondary.

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