Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER

[CRANKYpants]

I've always been puzzled by what exactly Thane's goal is.

GE Ecomagination Challenge BITT Entry

The Bi-Toroid Transformer (BITT) is a new type of transformer which acts as a magnetic diode and isolates the source from the load. The BITT has the capacity to use virtually 100% Reactive Power while delivering 100% Real Power to the load.

The BITT employs two secondary coils and two low reluctance flux path routes which allow Secondary Coil Back EMF induced flux to be diverted away from the Primary Coil’s Core. By diverting the secondary BEMF induced flux away from the primary core, the load power factor does not change from NO load to FULL load.

In addition, because the secondary BEMF induced fluxes follow the low reluctance flux path route around and away from the primary coil’s core â€" there is no flux coupling back through the primary coil and its impedance does not drop, therefore the NO load excitation current cannot change(increase). Both of the secondary coils’ ON load BEMF induced fluxes, follow the low reluctance flux path route around the primary coil and into the adjacent secondary coil thereby maintaining the flux required to sustain the power across the load.

Early third party testing of the BITT (by Defence Research and Development Canada data enclosed) have shown it operating well above 100% efficiency - in the region of 450 â€" 2700%. Because the BITT primary current does not change from NO load to FULL load, the primary coil does not heat up and resistive power losses due to heat are negligible.

If the BITT we employed in grid power lines at staggered intervals the transmission power line losses could be reduced to virtually zero. The BITT could be employed in household appliances to reduce the load on the grid. The BITT is now being developed and licensed in Canada, USA, Brazil, Europe and Asia.

In the first BITT Tutorial 101 Thane seems to allude to getting real output power for virtually zero input power. OK, the theory sounds interesting. Now, prove the theory.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke

In the BITT 2.0 and 3.0, unless I missed it, Thane does no input nor output power measurements. Whether this device merits further investigation begs to have these measurements performed, yet they are avoided.

YEP, YOU MISSED IT...
FROM JULY 2009: http://www.youtube.com/user/ThaneCHeins#p/u/14/RbRPCt1-WwQ

Thane seems to allude that the output power is only a few Watts, correct? From what I saw of Thane's input/phase/PF measurement with the scope, I am not nearly convinced that the input power is zero.

PLEASE SEE PREVIOUS EMAIL ABOUT LISTENING TO OTHER PEOPLE.
MY SUGGESTION IS TO PONY UP SOME ELBOW GREASE AND BUILD YOUR OWN AND LEARN.

As I assume the input source is AC through a variac perhaps, I would strongly suggest (as does ION) that Thane pick up a Killawatt meter to properly and simply measure the input power being consumed. I'll send him one if he promises to do the test.

ONLY TRUE HACK WOULD SUGGEST THAT A $1500.00 DIGITAL SCOPE BE RELACED WITH A $30.00 "WATT-METER FOR DUMMIES". MY SUGGESTION, ASK SOMEONE TO TEACH YOU HOW TO  USE AND READ A SCOPE LIKE I DID.

CHEERS
T

PS
SEND ME A REAL EMAIL AND I WILL SEND THE DRDC DATA TO ANYONE WHO REQUESTS IT WITH CONTACT INFORMATION IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE WITH A CANADIAN NATIONAL DEFENCE SCIENTIST/

[sigma16]

HERE'S AN OFFER...
I'LL PAY A MILLION LOONIES TO THE FIRST PERSON WHO CAN TAKE TWO NORTH POLE PERMANENT MAGNETS FACING EACH OTHER IN A REPELLING POSITION AND SHOW US ALL THAT THERE IS NO MAGNETIC FIELDS BETWEEN THEM BECAUSE THEY CANCELLED EACH OTHER OUT! EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A REAL REPELLING FORCE BEING EXHIBITED!

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SO MANY SEEMINGLY EDUCATED PEOPLE CAN BE SUCH DUNCES? 

MORAL OF THE STORY HERE - NEVER LISTEN TO ANYONE CONCERNING ANYTHING - EVER - UNTIL YOU HAVE PERSONALLY VERIFIED IT FOR YOURSELF.

FOR THE NON-DUNCES WHO ARE STILL CAPABLE OF LEARNING NEW STUFF:
http://www.coolmagnetman.com/magindex.htm

ANY REAL PERSON WITH REAL QUESTIONS WHO WANT REAL ANSWERS PLEASE SEND ME A REAL EMAIL AT: thane_heins@yahoo.ca

ANNONYMOUS DUMBASS EMAILS WILL BE IGNORED.

CHEERS
T

Hahahahahahahaa!!!

Whoa!  I can't believe you posted that on a public forum!

I feel sorry for you and anyone who thinks you have any idea of what you are doing, so I'll explain the opposing magnet "paradox" to you, so that everyone will know what a self-deluding prick you really are. 

OK?  Here goes:

Opposing Magnetic "vectors" cancel each other.  A vector is not an entire field.  A "vector" is a quantity with a direction and is used to describe a field or force.  So, looking at the field of your two magnets with the north poles facing each other, the vectors comes out of the face of the magnet in a continous curve.  The vectors represented by these curves NEVER ACTUALLY OPPOSE EACH OTHER SO THERE IS NO CANCELLATION  THE FIELDS COME OUT OF THE MAGNETS AND CURVE IN THE "SAME DIRECTION" AND HENCE ARE NOT "OPPOSING VECTORS" AND HENCE CANNOT CANCEL!!!!


MORAL OF THE STORY HERE: THANE IS TOTALLY IGNORANT OF MAGNETIC FIELDS AND JUST PROVED IT.


You will be less ignorant if you read this and you can see the vectors pushed out near the end of the page:
http://son.nasa.gov/tass/content/magnetism.htm

So, cough up my million loonies.

EDIT:

cancelled magnetic field in some non-inductive wire wound resistors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayrton-Perry_winding

[SchubertReijiMaigo]

I don't have the time to write along post because it's 2 hours AM...
Once again in a transformer your flux amplitude (B) never decrease because they are more current draw in the primary... The amplitude of the flux remain the same, we can call "vector", "lines", "flux path", it's doesn't matter...
The cricial question is in the case of the BTT, does the flux is stable in the outer coil , this flux is zero or not ? Good night to everyone !!! ZZZZZ...

[ramset]

Well
WE have a member here,Tinsel Koala
His field is Metrology The science of measurement
TestingAnd such,He is also a Canadian and a really cool Guy,
I will BEG him  to EMail Thane

Chet

[poynt99]

Early third party testing of the BITT (by Defence Research and Development Canada data enclosed) have shown it operating well above 100% efficiency - in the region of 450 â€" 2700%. Because the BITT primary current does not change from NO load to FULL load, the primary coil does not heat up and resistive power losses due to heat are negligible.

Looking forward to seeing the data, thanks.

YEP, YOU MISSED IT...
FROM JULY 2009: http://www.youtube.com/user/ThaneCHeins#p/u/14/RbRPCt1-WwQ

My analysis of your scope trace indicates a phase of 63º (3.5 divisions x 18º) which is a PF=0.454. This is a sensitive measurement, as a few degrees makes quite a difference in the PF. Accuracy in the phase measurement is paramount.

3mA on a 4A full scale setting  This is down in the "noise" of the meter's capability, and the reading is bound to be inaccurate (you are performing COP measurements here afterall).

It appears you are running the input through a relatively small capacitor, and that is going to introduce phase shift. Depending on where your scope and meter probes are measuring from, this could be a significant factor affecting the end-numbers.

As per the above, the computations and measurements made in the video are not reliable imo.

ONLY TRUE HACK WOULD SUGGEST THAT A $1500.00 DIGITAL SCOPE BE RELACED WITH A $30.00 "WATT-METER FOR DUMMIES".

Scopes and meters have their place. Knowing what they are is a valuable asset. I have a $30k+ scope, but depending on the job, a meter can be a better choice.

CHEERS
T

PS
SEND ME A REAL EMAIL AND I WILL SEND THE DRDC DATA TO ANYONE WHO REQUESTS IT WITH CONTACT INFORMATION IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE WITH A CANADIAN NATIONAL DEFENCE SCIENTIST/

I did

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