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Bedini SSG - self sustaining

Started by plengo, August 28, 2009, 08:04:34 PM

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plengo

Thanks MileHigh for great advices.

You are correct in your understanding of the circuit as I understand it too. I am not sure if it is really what happens because I am no EE but nonetheless it is what I see it too.

Concerning D2, I put it there because if you connect directly from D1 to negative of B3 it will decrease the speed of the fan dramatically and totally steal that spike from D1. If you dont have D2 at all the system runs way too fast consuming too much amps. So D2 is kind of regulating the system.

Now, secretly I believe (and this is my non EE understanding of the system - absolutely not conventional) that D2 is also directing a "negative" pulse from the coil back to the B1 battery which in fact runs down faster when D2 is not there, so some thing is charging or keeping B1 of discharging too fast via D2.

In all I think there is nothing special about this system and those that worked with Bedini SSGs have been here. I think the special is the voltage levels increased overall when the switching happens and If I take in consideration what Tesla did with his 4 battery switch project I think there is something special about it.

Concerning the timing, yes, I have been testing with my relays and function generator and the outcome is a mix of failures and successes. Timing will definitely prolong the life of the system to at least twice. No OU because the battery still runs down, but an improvement. It is really, in my opinion, the timing has to be on the right spot.

Fausto.

mscoffman

Fausto;

I think you are wasting your time trying to control your Bedini unit by
dead-reckoning with fixed time periods for on-and off. I can pretty much
guarantee that the overunity in these Bedini machines is a *process* that
needs to be controlled via monitoring. Fausto, if you complete this project
I promise you, based on the probabilities of what I have seen about things,
the world will not soon forget you.

You see there are two different approaches to this problem, one is giantism
â€" Build a giant machine, because the overunity process then becomes a
dominant process. The problem with that is it becomes potentially dangerous
and it no longer fits on a desk and expensive to do, requires space to build
etc. The better approach is to use one of monitoring and control of a
desktop size system, by inducing sufficient efficiency into the device’s
operation. That requires instrumentation expertise, which is what you are
developing. Believe me, once one understands what one is doing
systemically, safely scaling it up in size will be no problem. Any size
system will require rotation of batteries to prevent HV from burning-in to
a particular position, and therefore levelizing wear among batteries.

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Also, those back-to-back polarity canceling acid/lead batteries are a
complex system and not easily analyzable. Their net voltage will go above
and below zero. Any static charge would move around between them in an
unpredictable fashion. These could emulate an ice-scraper by boosting one
voltage above the other, in a kind of a self regulating mode, they are not as
simple as most other components connected with back-to-back polarity
appear to be.

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I had to rework my RSR232 Port Expander interface because I had forgotten
some drawbacks that I previously experimentally removed. But I am slowly
completing the documentation of it. It is a very good demonstration for why
one uses PALs Programmable Array Logic and why for an IC integrated circuit
designs above two IC’s…Microcontrollers often make more sense.

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Below is a link to the datasheet  for PIC microcontroller you mentioned. The
PIC16F84;

http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/35007b.pdf

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Below are weblinks to a number of advertisements of inexpensive
commercial DVM’s that output their readings to an RS232 serial port as
well as their internal LCD display. They are generally less than $100. They
have a “gate” time of about one reading per second. (Having two of these,
one for voltage the other for current would be what is required for a formal
proof of overunity energy production for any device.) Several have built in
frequency meter setting. (ie. for RPM measuring)…Nice.

http://www.electronic-supply.com/DMM-page.htm

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103962

http://www.cs-sales.net/veindimuwida.html

http://www.apogeekits.com/multimeter_dvm345di.htm

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/1581214.pdf

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/137462.pdf

http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&productId=137462&

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MileHigh

Fausto,

I am sorry but I am not going to get too involved in this thread.  If you do some critical searching on Bedini motors you will find the 'other' viewpoint.  Try searches like "bedini not working" or "bedini failure" or "bedini fraud."  I think there is even a Bedini motor thread on this web site where people talk about doing serious test runs and there is no over unity.

I suggest that you try to at least prove that you have something with a basic setup, before you get more complex.  Learn how to make the measurements and figure it out for yourself, and do it seriously.

You will find that there is nothing there, but you have to prove it to yourself.

MileHigh

plengo

Thanks MileHigh,

I already been through that road with Bedini and I do know if it works or not already too. But again, thanks for the good advice.

Fausto.