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I see an economic diasater coming...

Started by the_big_m_in_ok, September 03, 2009, 01:05:30 AM

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Do you think the American economy will ever improve?

Yes, definitely
Possibly, in the long run
No, it will worsen
Undecided

onepower

The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim--Gustave Le Bon

All the civilizations we know have been created and directed by small intellectual aristocracies, never by people in the mass. The power of crowds is only to destroy--Gustave Le Bon

We see, then, that the disappearance of the conscious personality, the predominance of the unconscious personality, the turning by means of suggestion and contagion of feelings and ideas in an identical direction, the tendency to immediately transform the suggested ideas into acts; these, we see, are the principal characteristics of the individual forming part of a crowd. He is no longer himself, but has become an automaton who has ceased to be guided by his will--Gustave Le Bon

Would you not see the doctor but a bum on the street if you had cancer, would you go see a bankrupt oilfield trucker for financial advice?. Would you hire a corrupt self-serving con man to manage your interests... you did in Trump.

onepower

NKE
That is kind of cool how messed up you are, you know at one time I thought I could do the crazy thing but it just wasn't me. I like to skirt around the edges a bit but it's a rabbit hole any way you look at it.
As well in this day and age what isn't crazy, I mean the American's elected Capt. bone-spurs, an illiterate man child if I ever saw one. It just get's better and better, lol.

lancaIV

A young life before and a young life in future
Birth

"Kinder"-garden
Basic-/ground-school entry with 5-6 years
Secondary/ high school + 12 years

With 18 : majority

Male : military/civil service 2 years
Academic studium 8 semester = 4 years
With 23-24 years ready for the "Industrial Society"


Now :
Birth
KITA/"Kinder"-garden

Basic-/ground school entry 5-6 years
Secondary-/High school 4 years
Male : military/civil service obsolet in most western countries
Academic studium : 4 semester compact ( = 2 years )

With 11-12 years ready for the "A.I. Society"
By actual law system : "Majority " age ?

Marriage age. ? In Western countries minimum 16 years  !
When is a "young life" adult. ?

Biological ( Peru, world youngest mother with 8 years)  or mental and with social ethical-ecological satisfying behaviour. ?
The cultural society can easily compress ancient 12 years school years + 4-6 years university study

= 16-18 life years  to 1/3 = 6 years total education life years

Reference :

C.G.Jung experiment : Motivation
Francis Galton experiment : Suggestion
Super-learning/Ultra-learning study results : extreme shorter time by higher educative quality
+ K.I.-teach-technology in future : brain-machines like "Neuro-phone" as assistant



Pardon, this are "no wonder"-child's,but actually "extreme example" for future PERFEKT education-technique "NORM" :
https://www.google.com/search?q=mit+9+jahren+studium&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-mor more than 15 years before about an "Oxford-Don"- and inoffcial Professor-assistent function :with eleven years  ! Inofficial : by law not allowed : too young !

Grand-/parents analphabets but their child/-s "super-intelligent" : society standart. !

Instead 10000 years only 200 seconds : the quantum computer time  save concept
https://www.google.com/search?q=10000+jahre+in+200+sekunden&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
In our "Quantum Society" 9/10 time,energy and material saving is enough  !

Schumpeter "Liberalism": SCHOEPFERISCHE ZERSTOERUNG

With Fantasy and Creativity we change habits,rules,standarts and laws  !
BTW : CATHOLIC = PERFECT or VOLLKOMMEN

lancaIV

FAIR TRADE AND FAIR TREAT : ACTIO ET REACTIO

About "wish" ,"economy laws/order" and reality

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.spiegel.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Fservice%2Fzara-ist-die-join-life-linie-nachhaltig-und-werden-arbeiter-gut-bezahlt-a-1297135.html
"CLEAN CLOTHES CAMPAIGN": monthly living wage for two adults and two children - " LIVING IN DIGNITY": 950 EUROS !

X 0,075 ~ 71,25 Euros per year private household energy costs part

THIS IS THE PRIVATE HOUSEHOLD AUTONOMOUS MICRO-GRID ENERGY SYSTEM TARGET  !

Based by these information sources :
https://www.google.com/search?q=private+household+energy+costs+global&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

So we have to calculate with 0,05 EURO/KWh enrrgy/electricity maximal cost price  !
By US average B2B 0,055 USD/KWh electricity prices not great miracles need  ! 

0,055 USD ~ 0,05 EURO

( Conventional 80 sqm  private household heating energy 6000 KWh to 225 KWh and actually electric appliances demand 2500 KWh by power saving devices/changes to 1250 KWh )
225 KWh + 1250 KWh = 1475 KWh x 0,05 EURO = 73,75 EUROS
E.U.- energy program equivalent : Nearly Zero -/ Net Zero -/ Zero Energy Building



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The Turkey wished to become E.U.- member but this was was by several E.U-member estates resisted !
Is Turkey european ? Geophysically 100% absolutely YES  !
  The Dardanellen /Bosporus is not the historical EUROP-EIA and ASIA-EIA  frontier. !


Pure language translation and meaning and later "myths/mythologies"
EUROP-EIA (Untergang/Abend/Okzident)= phenike determination IS THE VIEW FROM GOR(I)DON - as EARTH MIDDLEPOINT-(ANTIKE!)
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordion
this view and definition older than the religion "I'SLAM" :
Alexander der Grosse/o Magnifico + Tempel "Gordon Knoten ": ?
Year 333/334 ante/before criste nascimento
Mohamed/Maome birth year  22 April 571 poste/after criste nascimento
The other EARTHSIDE : ASIA-EIA: (Aufgang/Morgen/Orient)
-EIA ~ (Erd/-e) -Teil/part 

Earth also called Tellus : german Scheibe/ Teller / english : plate/disc
Only as short history and cultural review about many stupid meanings ( Europe ~ Bull et cet...)

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950 EUROS dividing with 4 capitas/family members = 237,5 EUROS PER CAPITA

If the both parents parts works full-time by the real minimum salary condition : each 310-387,5 Euros this 71,25
represents 71,25/ [ 2x ( 310 or 387,5)] an energycosts quote between 9,2% up to 11,5%  from the monthly salary !

This "virtual ' Clean Clothes Campaign' family '- wage image represents a global middle class "IDEAL"  !

Billions in the 1-2 USD per day (~ 30-60 USD monthly PER CAPITA )  class :
https://www.google.com/search?q=global+wages+pyramid&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
2 turkish minimum salaries as family wages / 4 family members = 310 Eurosx2 /4 = 155 EUROS PER CAPITA

INDIA : Tata Nano middle class car: ~ 1800 EUROS
MDI( UScompany) "NEW OROVILLE" ( INDIA construction project) middle class home-village : 21000 USD for 210 sqm

The most part of the world works a. without tax   b. without credit=  1/10 of tax-/credit market prices and salaries


Actually we see in the G7- estates a tax-/credit system liquidation,parallel salaries decrease and/or lost from employment or in industry/commerce for old people over 45 years pre-reform/-pension. !

                                                    Less 50% G7- economies :3 solutions

50% employment lost or

100% x 1/2 work-place time-share( by cleary 1/2 salary) or

at first 50% salary decrease by same horary work pensum

Clearly also as mix : 33,3% disemployment/33,3% work place time-share/ 33,3% salary decrease

Between "wishing" and reality is a great discrepance. !

Trump and the F. E. D.  : down with the capital tax !
A.     A Monarch/ President and his parliament NEVER  mandates about the FOLK-money-system !

         FRAENKISCHES/GOTISCHES HOHEITSRECHT : STRIKTE TRENNUNG KOENIGSSCHATZ VON VOLKSSCHATZ
        OLD ,but in use - the definition (Bundes-) SCHATZ-( VER-/)BRIEF/(-UNG)
        ABSOLUTE AUSNAHME UND BEI ERLAUBNIS DES F/VOLKES : NOT-/ERNSTFALL-DEKLARATION
                      ZERO TAX = ZERO WIN = ZERO KGV ( kurs/Gewinn Verhaeltnis)
                                                       KGV-comparison
Gewinn Schweizer National-Bank identisch Gewinn APPLE : APPLE 2000 X TEURER

https://www.wiwo.de/finanzen/boerse/schweizer-nationalbank-profitabler-als-apple-aber-nur-500-millionen-wert/25175996.html
APPLE COMPANY share : - 90%  200 Fach teurer
APPLE COMPAY share :     -99%. 20 Fach teurer
APPLE COMPANY share:   - 99,9 % 2 Fach teurer

Ich senke den Nationalbank-Gewinn um 90% und hebe den Gewinn als Erwartung fuer die Zukunft bei der APPLE COMPANY um das Zehnfache ( in Realtaet ist bei APPLE Marktsaetting erreicht, inklusive Apps-Vermarktung)

2000/10/10 = 20 = APPLE um 95% zu hoch bewertet
https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+kurswert&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
1170 Mrd.  USD der Kurswert und der " faire rechnerische Buchwert" : 58,5 Mrd. USD



die Waehler Donald Trump im "Bible belt" - ganz christlich orthodox- wird die Zukunft erfreuen :
c(h)ristlicher Zero-/Negativ( geben ist seeliger als nehmen) Tax bedeutet sinkende Einkommen

                                                          AMANER UND PHILOSOPHIE
https://www.google.com/search?q=amana+fridge&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
Kommunistische Christen als Gruppierung aus der Barmen-Wuppertal Region welche aufgrund Religionsausuebungsbehinderung in die U. S. A.  ausgewandert waren

   Kommunistisch handeln heisst nicht erfolgslos handeln sondern gemeinnuetzig, vereint

Kulturhistorisch und philosophisch ist der U. S. A. - "bible belt"- orthodox-kommunistisch

Religionen waren, sind und werden immer sein kommunistische Institutionen, politisch -saekular spricht man auch von "sozial/gerecht" ( dann aber immer nur mit Vergleichsmaszstab !)

lancaIV

2019 : REAL LIFE

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FEin-Kalb-kostet-nur-noch-8-49-Euro-article21384473.html
8,49 Euros/  ? Kg Lebendgewicht/ live weight

Compared :

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fder_tag%2FFrau-kauft-Maedchen-fuer-100-Euro-und-zwingt-es-zur-Prostitution-article21375773.html
100 Euros/ ? Kg Lebendgewicht / live weight

What is my, your, your wife, child/-s,neighbor/-s market worth today and in near future. ?

Buying and selling human bodies will become in future normality. !

The "I. S. " did it also : male prostitution as warrior

South-/Middle-/North-America : drugs-/prostitution gang-membership " buy-in"

Bei freier Kost und Logis und S. E. X.  was braucht der "gemeine" Mann mehr


From 5,6,7 to 8,9,10 and more billion human bodies on earth : great market. !
https://www.google.com/search?q=bangladesh+bordell&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
GLOBAL DAULATDIA-LIVING conditioning,with FE devices : ecological ! ::) But : ever economical. !

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2Fsaudi-arabien-haushaltshilfe-verkauf-auf-instagram-a-1296618.html
Economical question - by extreme "moral"-definition liberty : global body use liberalization by each one

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FTuerkei-schweigt-Wirtschaftskrise-tot-article21409181.html
Is suicide or selling/lease of family-members or their human body parts the better alternative. ?After suicide the human body organs are free for transplants by actually relatively high  organ market prices !
IT IS TIME NOW TO GIVE UP ETHICAL LIMITS


Observing in the end-80' the US estate auctions and market prices we can calculate with worldwide estate system bancrupts and low investment need. !
South-America in liquidation : Chile,Argentina,Kolumbia,Bolivia,Brasil(?),.....East Europe strong volatil. !
The north-african estates in chaotic situation  !

"I'slam" is abused as instrument,in reality it is the male object( worldwide),which actually is loosing his position/rank/title inside the society : by woman and humans--free technology

"The "climate" is abused as instrument by many estate administrations,for higher taxes and political budget liquidity,but it is the 50% over-consume and 50% structural  uction and personal over-capacity in industry and commerce the problem :~ 50% less work places ( this is the known 4.th industrial r-/ evolution surplus worker number)

In E.U.-Europe and North-America we will have in the next 10 years massive capacity extinction,but this is recycling mass for new developments .
Empty factory buildings to D. I. Y. - community "universities".Surplus cars metallic and plastic parts to house frames and machine parts.

Instead sellings we see now the commerce leasing/renting of consume objects. growing !The second hands ware market as temporary share/exchange plattform.

Search and  counter-offer. ! BARTER -society !  Money - free. !
The no-/low profit movement is fast growing.

The global  human society "core number" : 300 millions habitants , the rest " social toy" and servants
By catholic ethics( katholische NOBILITAS Erbfolgegesetz,zweite und folgenden Kinder ohne Ferilitaet= allgemeine Zoelibat, nicht nur fuer Kirchengeistliche ) and biology

Erstgeborene : Land, Titel/Name, Zeugungsrecht
~ China :  ehemalige Restriktion Ein Kind-proPaar
Zweitgeborene : Sozialberuf, kein Zeugungsrecht( Geborene : nobodies,Werkzeug)

Dritt+X: Kriegsdienst, kein Zeugungsrecht( Geborene: nobodies, Werkzeug)

~ Malthus  limitfreie Fortpflanzung zu 200 Mrd humanoiden "Wesen" auf dem Planeten


Kein Land= Keine Stimme( Wahlrecht) Land-Lords-Dynaste-Sozialsystem
Wirkt heute noch( Gueltigkeit!)  : Landlose = Staedter= Unfreie ~ Neuzeitliche Kommerz-System-Leibeigene
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibeigenschaft

Juristische Definition : Eigentuemer versus Besitzer
Wohneigentum in europaeischen Staedten : < 10 %       = 90% Mieter-Haushalte
90% in Eigentum der Finanzinstitutionen
Der Rest Wohn-Besitzer als Kredit-/Hypotheken-Zahler oder Mieter

( viele Immobilienkaeufer nennen sich "Eigentuemer ",sind aber
                    -ab dem ersten Cent Fremdschuld/Verbindlichkeit/Kredit/Hypothek/Darlehen -
                      rechtlich nur Besitzer ~ Fremdeigentums-Nutzer,                      juristisch/ oekonomisch Mietern sogar schlechter gestell )


"Land-Lord"

Minimum : 1 ha = 10000 qm pro Kopf Versorgungsflaeche ( mitteleuropaeische Bodenqualitaet und Klima) fuer minimale Selbst-Grundversorgung und temporaeren Ueberschuss als Tauschhandelsgut