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I see an economic diasater coming...

Started by the_big_m_in_ok, September 03, 2009, 01:05:30 AM

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Do you think the American economy will ever improve?

Yes, definitely
Possibly, in the long run
No, it will worsen
Undecided

lancaIV

Understanding  micro-economy from macro-economy view :
applied Paretto/King Davenant "saturation" laws
https://www.bpb.de/system/files/datei/EUR_05_T1_detail.svg

                                        progressive saturated         -  obere qualitative Meridian

10% surplus offer ( seller market): (12,2+14)/2  : 19,6  ~ 66,8 % =  classical theory 30% price decrease

                                        progressive over-saturated - untere quantitative Meridian

20% surplus offer ( buyer market) :           4          : 19,6 ~  20,4% = classical theory  80% price decrease


This happened 1987-89 with the US saving&loan banks fiasco and later with the Nomura-Crash begin ( new 0,5 ground tax) and at first Nikkei then WallStreet , .....

1990 german trillion DM -credit for " 10 units to east and 9 units back to west" western economy help program.

This happened 1990/1991 : E.C.U. destroy and credit-market crunching

This happened 2006-2009 with the US "surplus ware " house market and the worlwide toxic pappers sold with this immobiliar waste as warranty

And this is actually selling politics in all the G20 estates. !

Classical theory tells the truth about the economical game result !

Credit assessment basis ( Kredit bemessungsgrundlage)  + credit mortgage lending value( Kreditbeleihungswert)

are later seen as credit/ cash selling price coverage :
                                             legal auction ( classical : by 100% cash payment)

1.Termin/ aution day :  70% limit from book-value                       

2.                                      50% limit
3.                                      30% limit, after " zu jeden Preis" !  Ramsch/Junk

The actual house market price?  Only the cah part/sqm  ? With Paretto/King-Davenant "negative price lever" ?

The greatest looser from an Euro-collaps :
1. Luxemburg
2. Ireland
3. Spain
4. Belgium
5. Slowenien
6. Finland
7. Greece
based by their accumulated explizit and implizit estate debits :

total Maastricht estate debit limit for EURO-" sane fitness" : 60% explizit + implizit

https://m.focus.de/finanzen/boerse/verdeckte-verbindlichkeiten-luxemburg-ist-der-wahre-schuldenkoenig-europas_id_10254123.html
Italy can afford an Euro-exit. !
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSchattenverschuldung
A scale with private household debt but without "estate hidden debt/implizit debt"
https://de.irefeurope.org/doc1830
only private household debt ranking
https://de.irefeurope.org/doc1831
Global ranking ? Explizit + implizit estate debt + commercial debt + private household
                                   / trade surplus or trade losts

Probably the fitter Euro-members makes with PR China land-barter :PR China gets as new colony Luxemburg and the " better E. U. " gets as change Hong Kong or Macao !  ;D
Land-barter is something common : Sansibar for Helgoland f.e.

onepower

Watching the news today with all it's drama and I thought... I'm starting to like Donald Trump.

I mean he basically won a presidential election by gaslighting his opponents and his own party, he gave all his billionaire friends and himself a massive tax break at the taxpayers expense... and they cheered. He slashed and burned social services like health care and education then raped all environmental controls and regulations... and they cheered. He blockaded the border and threw children into cages and made racism great again ... and they cheered. He did everything they said he shouldn't do because it's corrupt and said whatever he wanted despite everyone's objections and ran his administration like the mafia... and they cheered. Now with record debt and an economy slowly spiraling downward into oblivion they still cheer.

You see it takes a great man to show how morally bankrupt an entire nation has become for all to see and an even greater salesman to convince them to burn it to the ground. I suspect Mr.Trump is going to light up a big old cigar and just waltz out of the white house without a scratch on him no worse for wear whispering... so long suckers. I mean it's epic that one man could have such a profound effect on so many people bringing out the best and as we can see the worst in them. All hail Trump, All hail Trump

onepower

NKE
Wow, that was a really thought provoking post ... Oh look a squirrel.

I think a 16 year old girl named Greta Thunberg said it best "We are at the beginning of mass extinction, and all you can talk about is money and fairy tales of eternal economic growth,".

Obviously, unlimited growth, like a virus with limited resources and space to expand is unsustainable and must result in extinction.
I mean it's so common sense and intuitive that even a fool should be able to understand the concept but apparently many do not.
It's a sorry state of affairs when I can listen to 2 years of Trumps word salads and it means little if nothing then a little 16 year old girl makes him look like an imbecile for stating the obvious.

Obviously the population and the economy cannot keep growing because we will run out of resources and space, period, end of debate.


lancaIV

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2F2019-10%2Fgrossbritannien-boris-johnson-no-deal-medien%3Futm_source%3Dpocket-newtab

                       Controle and separation of power ( staatliche " ordentliche" Gewaltenteilung)

Legislative, Jurisdikative, Exekutive

Instanz :     Scottish Supreme Court

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_Kingdom

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGericht_der_Europ%25C3%25A4ischen_Union

                   The Court for the Europarat/Council of Europe : https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=gerichtshof+des+europarates+englisch&oq=gerichtshof+des+europarates+englisch&aqs=heirloom-srp..

         Since when, in which democratic estates, the government does not be part from the parliament

             = the " Legislative" 

          ( the government is executing the Will-wish/ Volonte/Willen from the parliament majority. !)

         and like as seen by this scottish judge :   parted : parliament = Legislative and government= Exekutive  ::)

       Constitutional Monarchies comparison !? : Sweden ,Danmark,"Luxemburg",Belgium,Spain,Netherlands

Beside "President/Monarch" impeachment act also for Legislative, Jurisdicative- and Executive- members. ?
http://www.olivercromwell.org/wordpress/?page_id=1417
" impeachment" ~ NORMKONTROLLVERFAHREN : KONSTITUTIONSKONFORMITAET. 1:1

Amtstraeger : Wuerden-/Buerden-Traeger unter Amts-EID oder - SCHWUR, einige zu Haenden " einer Bible "

No political correctness, constitutional correctness.  !  REVIEW. ! AND COMPENSATION. !


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IsvfofcIE1Q
                         "Bonner Republik"

2:21 Herbert Fram later known as Willy Brandt, Oslo-Nobel-Yury-Award
         Beside him : Heribert Wehner " Sie Nebelkraehe  ! " , Polizisten-Moerder und spaeterer:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                      Bundes-Tag-s-Abgeordneter

EIDESSTATTLICHE ERKLAERUNG UND KEINE VERKLAERUNG WIRD ERWARTET.  !
WIR ALLE ARBEITEN AUF DEN " LICHTEN TAG" HIN. ! FUER VIELE ERFOLGT DARAUF " NACHT"

lancaIV

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fmediathek%2Fvideos%2Fpolitik%2FUSA-schuetzen-Diplomaten-Gattin-vor-Strafe-article21325899.html
nuechtern : fahrlaessige Toetung
unter Drogeneinfluss : vorsaetzlicher Totschlag ,knapp vor "Mord"
Das ist das Strafmasz. !
Haftstrafe !
UNFALLFLUCHT  !  OPFER NOCH LEBEND NACH DEM UNFALL?  UNTERLASSENE (NOT-)HILFELEISTUNG  !
+ Schmerzensgeld. !

Hoehe  ? Geschworenengericht entscheidet : Referenz Monsanto und aehnlich hohe Verurteilungen. !

(Diplomatische)  Immunitaet bezieht sich auf politisches Wirken,  nicht inbegriffen zivil-/strafrechtliche Vergehen der "Immunitaetstraeger" und derer Angehoeriger  ! AUTOMATISCHE IMMUNITAETSAUFHEBUNG. !
Was Internationale Norm darstellt : Doyen/Nuntius als Ratgeber