I see an economic diasater coming...

[triffid]

In April I spent $300 on handling and shipping charges on ebay to get my solar cells from ebay.To get about $300 worth of solar cells and small solar panels.I think I will hang out at Fry's and harbour frieght to see what more I can get.I am building up the nerve to try to tin my aluminum wires again.I have the ceramic tile and hotter soldering irons waitng.The heat may have weakened the aluminum wires but it did not melt it.It turned brown as if I had charred a coating on it.triffid

[triffid]

You can run your clorox treated water thur crushed charcoal to make it taste better just don't use charcoal thats been sprayed with lighter fluid to make it light quicker.Use only dry charcoal and I used a coffee filter from an old coffee pot.triffid

[the_big_m_in_ok]

RECENT UPDATE:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/8-Problems-That-Could-Trigger-usnews-2034065513.html?x=0

I'd add a few more things to be concerned about:

9) Financial markets are just as risky as before.  I think $1 quadrillion in Credit Default Swaps (derivatives) are waiting to be either defaulted on or simply cannot be paid in, say, 1,000+ years.

10) The war in SW Asia is costing about several trillion dollars.  And we can't win militarily with the army we have now.  A black hole of money.

11) The Gulf oil spill is jeopardizing $60 billion in total regional economic activity.  Jobs are already being lost.  The end of the spill may come in late Aug.  Maybe.  The money is being lost now.

I think all this is adding up.  I doesn't look good, to put it as a seriously strong understatement.

--Lee

[sparks]

  I see an economic disaster for gamblers and swindlers.  Gamblers the stock market gamers.  Swindlers the debt salesman.  In the coming world if all you can do for others is rip them off then I dont believe you'll be of any value and being of little value discarded.  I dont forsee it as an economic disaster but more as an economic revolution.  An economy based on ripping people off and enslaving them is long overdue to be dead.  The trickle down theory is bullshit.
If you are living off the sweat of others then I'd be pretty worried at this point.  The trigger was the greed of the banking industry.  They have been playing the same game since time immortal.  Come into my den and sign this piece of paper.  It is a majical piece of paper that allows you property rights.  We are wealthy cant you see by the trappings of our room we now show you that we are wealthy.  Give us all the gold that you have.  We will give you this majical piece of paper.  You can touch it for a second.  You will be wealthy like us for a second.  Then you will work for 30years and give us more gold each and every month.  If you do not give us more gold each month we will have the police who we control throw you out of our  (oh excuse me) your house or place of business.  Now that you have touched the majical piece of paper please give it to this man who will take this majical piece of paper and deposit it into the former owners account.  He grew tired of giving us gold every month and preferred to touch the majic paper again.  So lets take the old bullshit money out of the equation.  Outlaw moneylending all together and forgive all debt.  The banking industry crashes and is reduced to living off of service fees on debit cards and cashing paychecks and administering trusts or whatever real service they provide.  Now if you have a better mouse trap and want to start a business who will you turn to for startup capitol.   You will have to sell stock in your company.  If you can not sell stock in your company then most likely your mouse trap sucks.  The systematic dismantling of companies that produced goods and services so that a moneylender could list the property as a tangible asset and in so doing perpectuate the debt industry destroyed the gnp of the United States.  Lots of empty high rise condos round here where the fishing industry use to be.  The fishing industry would have kept everybody employed in a meaningful task.  Instead we have a bunch of empty devalued apartments getting moldy and full of termites. Thankyou moneylenders for your wonderful service provided.  Take your majic paper and shove it where the sun dont shine.

[the_big_m_in_ok]

@sparks
With respect to your Reply post #586,

Well said.  My Native American ancestors didn't need to be greedy to survive and neither do I.  I just need enough and I have to do my best to make the effort to survive, whatever that takes.

I think we all do.

NEWS UPDATE:

http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/02/news/economy/jobs_gone_forever/index.htm?postversion=2010070223

--Lee