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Stan Meyers tech experimenters please help

Started by CrazyEwok, September 04, 2009, 12:42:03 AM

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Quote from: CrazyEwok on September 04, 2009, 12:42:03 AM
i know many have had their attempted replications and tend not to work as expected. My question is has anyone literally tested his theory of increasing voltage with minimal current? if so what voltage levels did you use. what effects did you observe. What current leakage did you have.
As a standard i would also like to know if you used tap water or distilled. Also if you added any e/lyte.

I just love it how i ask for data and the limitations of your experiment and all i get is "take my word for it" and "me and others did this and that" as i said yes you had experiments with little to no success but either due to your lack of documentation or your equipments limitations you still have not given me anything that i asked for but still assume i am talking about some direct correlation between what i would like to know and what you think i want to know... I didn't ask for your opinion on what works i asked about peoples results and the limitations of their experiments... Did you go to 40,000 V and 5mA ? did you go to 500v? "With 60W at 300V i saw very small bubbles..." "i lowered the amps to 1am and then increased the voltage in 20v blocks up to 200v and started to notice production at 150v, but there were far to many sparks between the plates"  these are the kinds of answers i am looking for...

Quote from: Thomas A. Edison
I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

dankie

Yeah you should "take my word for it" .

I go @ ionizationx , where all the "testers" are . For every pointless little comment you made , theres a guide on something related to HHO over there . Theres people who know more than you and have more experience and tried more than you , Do you seriously think you are better than the members theres ? Stevie recently put a setup that he found was the best working in all the plethora of things he tried , the VIC pictures were first released there , all the circuits that hydrogen garage sells were posted there ,  before anywhere else . I am not even the best @ eletronics over there...

This is not dependtard overunity.com filled with posers with an attitude who have no hands on experience @ anything , a bunch of arm-chair-ists  who know more about TPU mumble talk than actually calculating a simple electronic circuits ...

When I claim that "we went down that road" , we did , we posted it there , we had a discussion about it  . And odds are that you will come to the same conclusions , unless you have some very heavy experience and skill and tools for that matter or just pure luck lol ...

So if you are stubborn , make sure you are a dam smart researcher and well equipped with electrnics measurement and have good methodology and "handy skills" . You are gonna need to learn to make your own tools and find ways to save $ .

If all you wanna do is find something to save $ , make a big GEET , make a bubbler . It will save you more than a 3 volt jules thief  and magical daydreaming TPU . And once you have mastered that , make it for your neighbors and come buy my master oscillator for further research on the Meyers system , because there is no further research at this moment to be done .






CrazyEwok

<yawn> still no actual helpful information just more jaw yappin... and assumptions... Nevermind Dankie go back to your little world...

CrazyEwok

Ok dankie here is ur chance to prove me wrong... you say you built the coil exactly as Meyers stated... what was your coil ratio and how high was your output voltage / current?

CrazyEwok

since its been almost a week now and you havn't responded one can only assume u do have nothing... or didn't take notes on your own experiment...
Let me Summarise for you some facts...
Dielectric breakdown of water happens at 65-70 MV/m
Avalanche Breakdown happens at ~70MV/m - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalanche_breakdown

But dankie did his research and knew this didn't you dankie? You didn't just follow some set out instructions blindly... This is why we should "just take your word for it"

What this means is you need a minimum voltage of 70,000 volts per mm of gap between your electrodes. There is no mention of current required for this... Which means that as long as the potential is there (to accelerate the electrons) you only need 1 loose electron to start the process and "the number of free electrons is thus increased rapidly as newly generated particles become part of the process" as once they become free they are accelerated in the HV field... Now your maticulas coil windings i doubt had a 1:6000 (thats if efficientcy of coils was almost 100%) rating... so i don't think you had the voltage to do the job... So again people trying Stans idea what sort of output did you have and what was the gap between your electrodes? (also please note that this only applies to HV distilled water)